Most investors believe patience protects them—but in uncertain markets, hesitation often becomes the most expensive decision they make.

Periods like this don’t reward confidence or optimism. They reward preparation, discipline, and the ability to act while others are frozen by fear. That tension sits at the center of this conversation.

If you’re serious about navigating cycles like this with more clarity and support, the real work happens inside the Tribe of Titans multifamily investing community—where operators go deeper on capital strategy, deal decisions, and asset management in real time.
👉 Learn more at thetribeoftitans.com

What You’ll Learn

• Why fear-driven markets quietly punish investors who wait for “certainty”
• How debt structure—not assets—becomes the real risk in downturns
• The hidden operational cost of spreading across too many markets
• Why geographic focus creates resilience when conditions tighten
• How experienced operators position themselves for opportunity before it’s obvious

This conversation cuts through headlines and hype to focus on what actually matters when markets turn—decision-making, discipline, and positioning.

About the Guest

Rod Khleif is a real estate investor, business owner, and educator with experience spanning multiple market cycles. He has owned more than 2,000 properties and brings firsthand perspective from both large-scale success and major setbacks, including navigating the 2008 crash. Rod focuses on the intersection of real estate, mindset, and performance, drawing on decades of operating experience to help investors think and act at a higher level.

Learn more about him: https://rodkhleif.com/

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About the Host

Brian Briscoe is an apartment investor and operator, founder of Streamline Capital, and the Tribe of Titans multifamily investing community. His investing focus is the Greater Salt Lake City metro, where he emphasizes disciplined acquisitions, operational control, and long-term capital strategy.

Welcome back for a multifamily brief episode. Today, I am going to discuss navigating challenges, and my upcoming Capital Rising Course.

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This episode originally aired on January 5, 2026

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Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. 

He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.

He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area.

 He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.

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Brad Johnson joins us today to discuss his journey in multifamily, improving infrastructure, challenges faced, and advice he would give to those just starting on the multifamily journey.

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This episode originally aired on October 31, 2025

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Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. 

He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.

He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area.

 He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.

Connect with him on LinkedIn

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Brad Johnson

Brad is the co-founder and CIO of Vintage Capital. Brad has 20 years of experience investing in both traditional and alternative asset classes. Brad is also the managing partner of Evergreen Capital, which focuses on public markets and advises Vintage on its investments. Previously Brad has worked as a real estate private equity operator. Early in his career Brad worked at Wells Fargo's real estate investment bank and held various investment positions with private equity firms. Brad has closed over 3.3 billion in commercial real estate acquisitions over the course of his career.

Learn more about him at: https://vintage-funds.com/

Ashley Garner joins us to discuss scaling, challenges, and tips for those just starting out.

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This episode originally aired on August 22, 2025

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Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. 

He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.

He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area.

 He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.

Connect with him on LinkedIn

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Ashley Garner

Mr. Garner is an experienced and successful real estate investor with over 3 decades in the multifamily business as an owner, operator and manager. Currently, he owns and operates a portfolio of 132 units (368 beds) in various locations in two states. In addition, Ashley has been a real estate broker since 1996. Real estate is his career; helping others achieve financial freedom through investing in real estate is his passion.

Ashley is married and has two children…they say all he talks about is apartments!

Learn more about him at: https://www.abgmultifamily.com/ or https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleybgarner/

Brandon Howliet talks about property management, having your team ready, and his journey through multi-family so far.

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This episode originally aired on August 15, 2025

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Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. 

He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.

He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area.

 He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.

Connect with him on LinkedIn

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Brandon Howliet

Brandon began his real estate journey in 2002, purchasing his first residential investment property. Over the next two decades, he gained deep experience in fix-and-flip single-family and duplex projects, wholesale real estate deals, and even operated a coin laundromat business. Through these ventures, Brandon discovered his true passion: helping others achieve financial freedom through real estate investing. In 2015, Brandon launched Branstar Capital Inc. and in 2022 the company transitioned into multifamily syndications, partnering with a proven team of operators and asset managers. The company focuses on identifying value-add multifamily assets, delivering strong returns to investors through strategic acquisitions, repositioning, and efficient management. Brandon has cultivated a trusted investor network across Illinois, Texas, Kentucky, and has been instrumental in capital raising and investor relations for several syndications. He currently serves as a GP (General Partner) with 113 units under active asset management and continues to grow Branstar’s portfolio through disciplined underwriting, market insight, and long-term relationship building.

Learn more about him at: https://branstarcapital.com/, or https://rb.gy/r89dbw

Senate Eskridge talks with us about his journey through real estate, fund to fund investing, and giving back to the community.

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This episode originally aired on August 8, 2025

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Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. 

He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.

He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area.

 He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.

Connect with him on LinkedIn

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Senate Eskridge

Hey, I'm Senate!

I was born and raised in Twin Falls, Idaho, where I’ve built a life centered around family, entrepreneurship, and personal growth. My wife Cari and I have raised five amazing children here in the Magic Valley—or as I like to say, “Nope, we don’t have kids; we have adults!” Together, we’ve tackled life as serial entrepreneurs, founding ventures like The Idaho Summit while balancing our passion for community and business.

My Professional Journey

I currently own 847 multifamily units across the country (and counting) and have helped nearly 100 people from all walks of life invest in multifamily real estate. There’s nothing more rewarding than helping others take control of their financial futures.

I love sharing my knowledge with aspiring investors, guiding them to build wealth through multifamily real estate. Watching my students grow and succeed is one of my greatest joys.

Over the years, I’ve gained experience across multiple industries, including owning my own financial firm. This diverse background has given me the skills and insight needed to excel in real estate investing and beyond.

Learn more about him at: https://www.senateeskridge.com/, or https://www.senateeskridge.com/links

Today Jessie Lang joins us to discuss the BRRRR method, coaching, and her journey through real estate.

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This episode originally aired on August 1, 2025

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Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. 

He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.

He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area.

 He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.

Connect with him on LinkedIn

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Jessie Lang

Jessie Lang started investing in real estate by "house-hacking" over 10 years ago, and has since grown a substantial rental portfolio that she manages with the help of a small, remote team. In the last 36 months, she's grown from 11 doors (bought the wrong way with 20% down), to 70 doors and counting. She’s laser focused on the BRRRR method, which allows her to put her money to work over and over to create generational wealth. She partners with private lenders to buy real estate with none of her own money, all while providing them double digit returns on their investment! Jessie has created a free mini-course—how to buy 1-3 rentals per month on autopilot (even if you don't own a property yet, don't have 20% down, and think rates are too high). When she isn’t managing rentals or coaching, she is traveling with her wife Laura, spoiling her 5 (yes 5!) pets, and getting her hands dirty in DIY house projects and gardening.

Learn more about her at: https://linktr.ee/jessielangrealestate

Monica Kimutis joins us today to discuss playing to your strengths, mitigating risk, and her story with investing. 

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This episode originally aired on July 25, 2025

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Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. 

He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.

He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area.

 He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.

Connect with him on LinkedIn

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Monica Kimutis

Monica Kimutis runs Bridges + Buzz, a boutique agency that connects national brands with investor-led communities. She’s not just a connector, she’s an investor herself, with two passive multifamily deals in Texas, a short-term rental, and multiple house flips under her belt. Monica brings an operator’s lens to every sponsorship strategy, helping companies show up with real value and relevance in the investor space.

With a degree in International Business and a sharp instinct for deal-making (like the time she convinced a neighbor to sell their house so her parents could move in next door) Monica blends strategy with bold, action-oriented thinking.

She lives in Knoxville, TN with her husband and their four kids. When she’s not crafting sponsorship campaigns or building investor partnerships, you’ll find her running mud races with her kids or helping them learn entrepreneurship by selling honey from their backyard beehives

Learn more about her at: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monica-kimutis/

Today J. Scott joins us to talk about finding deals, switching markets, working with your strengths and advice he would give to those just starting out in multifamily.

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This episode originally aired on July 18, 2025

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Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. 

He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.

He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area.

 He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.

Connect with him on LinkedIn

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Jason Scott

J Scott (he goes by "J") is an entrepreneur, investor, advisor, author, and partner at Bar Down Investments, focused on buying and repositioning large multifamily properties. In the past fifteen years, J has bought, built, rehabbed, sold, lent-on and held over $150M in property around the country. J holds strategic advisor roles in several companies and is the author of five BiggerPockets books on real estate investing, including the best-selling, The Book on Estimating Rehab Costs. He is also co-host of the award winning Drunk Real Estate podcast. Find out more about J and connect with him at www.JScott.com. 

Learn more about him at: Website: www.JScott.com 

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Madhavi Jain joins us today to talk about Connected Capital, getting better splits, more access to better deals, and her multifamily journey.

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This episode originally aired on June 27, 2025

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Your host, Brian Briscoe, has owned over twenty apartment complexes worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is dedicated to helping aspiring apartment investors learn how to do the same. 

He founded the Tribe of Titans as his platform to educate aspiring apartment investors and is continually creating new content for the subscribers and coaching clients.

He is the founder of Streamline Capital based in Salt Lake City, Utah, and is probably working on closing another apartment complex in the greater SLC area.

 He retired as a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Marine Corps in 2021 after 20 years of service.

Connect with him on LinkedIn

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Madhavi Jain

Madhavi is the President, Wealth strategist and a Podcast Host at Think Outside the Stocks, which is now recognized as Top 3% podcast globally.

Madhavi helps her clients with a two-fold approach to Grow, Preserve, Protect and Pass generational wealth. An efficient savings vehicle with Infinite Banking and risk-managed investing in commercial real estate syndications. 

She is a passive investor coach and brings high quality investments to her clients via historically recession resistant asset classes such as multi family, self storage, industrial, senior assisted living, and more. 

Prior to her real estate exploration, Madhavi spent 16+ years in the IT industry mostly with one of the top 5 consulting firms and with her exit from the corporate world, she is now on a mission to “Change the financial trajectory of one family at a time and thousands more to go."

Learn more about her at:https://www.linkedin.com/in/madhavinadejain/,

https://thinkoutsidethestocks.com/, or  Podcast: https://rb.gy/kvrn4v