Today’s episode features a powerful conversation with Hillary McBride. Hillary is a therapist, speaker, author, and host of the Liturgists Podcast.

Jonathan and Hillary discuss discerning healthy rhythms for our life beyond simple labels like “right” and wrong”. They dive deep into the damaging impact and trauma that can be caused by over saturation of social media- and even get into the difficult and often painful relationships, with friends and family, who hold vastly different views than we do. This is profound conversation that we believe will help provide some tools to navigate this particular moment we are facing. Thank you for listening!

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