DNA: ID

Episode 164 The Denver Four Part 1 of 2

Four women were murdered in the Denver, CO area, three in 1980 and one in 1978, in crimes that remained unsolved – and unconnected – for decades. The victims had nothing in common, the circumstances varied widely. But modern DNA testing technology provided investigators with some very surprising information – and IGG tied it all together. They were looking for one man for all four murders – and those were not the sum total of his heinous crimes. Today's episode is about one of the more depraved killers identified by IGG, one you've likely never heard of.

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Episode 163 Doe ID: Roberta Mumma

In 1984, the decomposed remains of a woman wrapped in plastic were found in remote Wizard Wells, Jack County, TX. Experts posited that she was a young white woman, but without any identification, no fingerprints, and no corresponding missing persons reports, she could not be identified. Fast forward nearly 40 years – when IGG would be used on her bones to identify her as Roberta Mumma. Roberta hailed from the Lancaster, PA area and was believed to have died around age 25. Her death is considered a homicide, and the Jack County authorities and the Texas Rangers are seeking information about her case.

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Episode 162 Leslie Preer Part 2 of 2

This is part 2, the conclusion of the Leslie Preer case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now, and go back and listen to that part first.

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Episode 162 Leslie Preer Part 1 of 2

Upscale Chevy Chase, MD does not see a lot of violent crime. But that changed in 2001, when loving wife and mom Leslie Preer was beaten to death in her own home in a shocking crime. Investigators could find no motive for the murder, but certain aspects of the crime scene directed investigators' attention to Leslie's husband as the prime suspect. After all, it was very unlikely that a stranger had broken into the house, killed Leslie, and attempted a clean-up. But they could not pin the crime on Carl Preer, and the case stalled. Not until the Montgomery County PD cold case unit embraced IGG did they find a name of a suspect – one who had been under their noses the whole time.

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Episode 161 Doe ID: Wynona Michele

In 1990, Madison County IL authorities recovered the remains of a nude young woman in a soybean field. She had some articles of clothing and jewelry with her, but no identification. Investigators could not identify her, and she was buried in a church cemetery with a headstone that called her Jane Doe. But they had the foresight to retain some physical evidence, and with the advent of IGG, were able to use that evidence to locate living relatives of Jane Doe. She was Wynona Nadine Michel – but her identity is just part of the mystery. She is now the subject of an active homicide investigation. Who killed Wendy Michel?

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Episode 160 Robin Lawrence

In this shocking and heart-wrenching 1994 case, a young Northern Virginia mother is killed in her own in a vicious crime that shocked even seasoned members of law enforcement. Not only was the brutality breathtaking, but Robin's 2 year old daughter was left with her mother's corpse for two whole days. This case confounded Fairfax County police, because Robin had no enemies, yet the crime of passion clearly targeted her. A prime suspect emerged whom police were convinced did it, only to be disappointed by DNA results. It's not an overstatement to say that were it not for IGG, the murder of Robin Lawrence would never have been solved. Because the identity of the killer, and his reasons for slaying Robin, were simply impossible to believe.

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Episode 159 Doe ID Carl Bryant

Warning: this episode explicitly addresses child abuse and murder.

In 1972, the brutally beaten body of a young child was found in a shallow creek in Fairfax County, VA. Little John Lorton Doe was unidentified and unclaimed, and was buried in a local cemetery by a church group. Investigators over the decades never forgot the little boy, and when cold case detective Melissa Wallace took on the case, she used mere iotas of rootless hairs, cutting edge DNA technology, and IGG to identify him as four year old Carl Matthew Bryant. But the story of Carl Bryant, killed at the hands of an abuser, became even more shocking when it was revealed that he was not the only one.

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This is a special bonus episode based on breaking news.

Serial Killer Robert Eugene Brashers has been identified as the killer in the infamous 1991 Austin Yogurt Shop Murders in Austin, Texas. In that case, four teenage girls were shot execution style before the yogurt shop was set on fire. Killed in that case were 17 year old Jennifer Harbison, and her 15 year old sister Sarah Harbison. Also killed were 17 year old Eliza Thomas, and 13 year old Amy Ayers. DNA from the crime scene was connected to Robert Eugene Brashers who we covered back in episode 104 in the murders of Sherri and Megan Scherer and Genevieve Zitricki.

In this bonus episode, host Jessica Bettencourt breaks down how the Yogurt shop murders were connected to Brashers, and discusses a yet unrevealed victim he may be linked to in Kentucky. We will also replay the original Brashers episode here for listeners who may not have listened to it before, or want a refresher on just how brutal a predator Robert Eugene Brashers was.

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Episode 158 Mary Schlais Part 2 of 2

This is part 2; the conclusion of the Mary Schlais case. If you have not listened to part 1 yet, please stop now and go back and listen to that first.

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Episode 158 Mary Schlais Part 1 of 2

In one of the oldest cold case homicides solved by IGG, Mary Schlais's shocking murder in Dunn County, WI was finally resolved. Way back in 1974, a witness saw the killer disposing of Mary's bloody body in a snowbank, and the killer dropped something at the scene… and yet, his identity eluded investigators for 50 years. Dunn County investigators never gave up on Mary's case, and when investigative genetic genealogy came along, they jumped at the opportunity, once and for all, to obtain justice for the bright, multi-lingual, artistic young equestrian who had her whole life ahead of her until it was snatched away with a few thrusts of a knife. Finally, they had a name for the monster who stabbed Mary to death. And what they would hear from him was shocking.

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