How does modern society shape our perceptions of childbirth, and are we missing a deeper, more primal experience?

Ashley sits down with Leah, a software engineer and mother, to explore childbirth's deeply personal and often overlooked spiritual dimensions. Together, they unpack the ways modern society frames birth—medicalized, blissful, or terrifying—and contrast these narratives with Leah’s raw, primal experience of labor. They discuss the psychological and physiological forces at play, the importance of surrender and instinct, and the role of partners in supporting a natural birth. Ashley and Leah also reflect on the lost traditions of communal birthing knowledge and how reconnecting with this ancestral wisdom can reshape our approach to pregnancy, labor, and motherhood.