Roxanne Ahern and Katherine Pakalak, join Ashley to discuss the pressing issue of declining birth rates and the cultural implications of antinatalism. They explore the grim trends in population decline, the societal and technological factors influencing family dynamics, and the potential future of family structures. The conversation emphasizes the need for a cultural shift to support larger families and the importance of articulating the desirability of children in modern society. Roxanne, Katherine, and Ashley explore the intricate relationship between technology and human weaknesses, the critique of hyper-tech optimism, the paradox of women's happiness in the context of modern societal expectations, the complexity of childbearing choices, and the joy of parenthood. They discuss how technology can alleviate and exacerbate human challenges, the societal pressures on women regarding family and career, and the personal choices that lead to varying family dynamics. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the complexities of family planning, the risks associated with delaying parenthood, and the role of faith in shaping attitudes toward children. They emphasize the importance of intentionality in family planning and challenge societal norms prioritizing career over family. The discussion also highlights the value of children as blessings and the need for a supportive community in navigating family life.