This podcast was recorded at the park, so you can hear background sounds including traffic and children. We share about the Cycle of Anxiety and what that has to do with avoidance. We talk about how Dissociation is protective in the short term, but long term avoidance makes things more complicated - including causing illness and other problems that add to what we have to deal with in life. We discuss triggers and avoidance, and what it means to “do it afraid” - even in friendship.