Dr. James Beckett chats with longtime friend and industry expert Rob Veres about the evolution of sports card collecting. They touch on pivotal changes, like PSA's integration into retail spaces, the significance of AI in streamlining operations, and the layers of management required for business growth. Rob highlights the importance of creating an emotional and transactional experience for customers while showcasing the diverse demographics now engaging with the hobby. The discussion covers strategies for maintaining a strong brand, fostering innovation, and the challenges and successes of modern sports card shops.

 

00:33 PSA Kiosk and Customer Convenience

02:54 Implementing AI in the Business

06:42 Management and Business Growth

08:02 Card Shop Comparisons and Innovations

16:00 Creating an Experience for Customers

19:08 Diversity and Future of the Hobby

Join Dr. Beckett for an insightful conversation with industry icon Rob Veres, discussing everything from the current costs in the hobby to the strategies for ensuring collectors find their treasured cards. They delve into the differences between high-end and everyday collecting, the challenges of modern card processing, and the evolving business models for sports card sales.

 

00:59 Rob's Approach to the Hobby

01:48 Website and Global Demand

02:29 Challenges with Flippers and Collectors

05:27 Bulk Buying and Processing

07:38 Team Lots vs. Player Lots

09:00 Transition from eBay to Fanatics Collect

09:51 Fanatics Partnership and Business Strategy

17:40 Retail Space and Product Mix

18:54 Store Experience and Future Plans

Dr. Beckett answers more questions from Jason aka Professor Sportscards on navigating the hobby, including the importance of a well-rounded education, recognizing market manipulation, and understanding the ebb and flow of card values. He shares personal anecdotes about his journey from being a hobbyist to running a large company, reflecting on the challenges and joys of managing Beckett Media. Dr. Beckett also provides his perspective on contemporary issues in the hobby, such as the sensationalism in content creation and the economic dynamics of buying and selling cards. Finally, he comments on his enduring passion for the hobby and the need to maintain its charm amidst financial complexities.

 

00:44 Advice for New Collectors

01:51 Market Manipulation in the Hobby

03:49 Running Beckett Media

06:02 The Evolution of Collecting

12:59 Current Market Trends

Dr. Beckett delves into the controversial topic of shill bidding in the sports card hobby. He explains the illegal practice, differentiates between defensive and offensive shill bidding, and shares personal insights and anecdotes. The discussion highlights the impact of shill bidding on auction integrity and explores the challenges in detecting and punishing it.

 

00:29 Understanding Shill Bidding

01:42 Patrick Ryan's Case and Personal Reflections

03:53 Defensive vs. Offensive Shill Bidding

06:34 Auction House Practices and Ethical Concerns

09:03 The Complexity of Shill Bidding Detection

13:07 Legal and Ethical Implications

Dr. Beckett joins Jason on his Professor Sportscards YouTube channel  to explore Jason's various pressing issues in the sports card industry. Dr. Beckett shares his experience, tracing back to his early days in the 1970s, and discusses his current role as a hobbyist. Key topics include the evolution of conflicts of interest within the industry, the rise of PSA, and concerns about card overprinting. They also explore the challenges and opportunities for new and existing card shops in the current market landscape.

 

02:09 Conflict of Interest in the Industry

05:00 Market Dynamics and Competition

09:16 Overprinting and Its Impact

11:03 Consumer Choices and Hobby Sustainability

Dr. Beckett explores the controversial topic of PSA's upcharges for card grading. Offering a unique perspective as a former competitor with foundational experience in grading, he breaks down why these additional fees might actually strengthen PSA's brand by contributing to higher secondary market values. By comparing PSA with BGS and sharing insights from his time in the industry, Dr. Beckett provides a comprehensive analysis of the grading market, including issues of consistency, market value, and the psychological justification behind higher prices for PSA-graded cards.

 

00:53 Historical Context of Grading

01:42 PSA's Competitive Edge

02:53 Psychological Justification for Higher Prices

03:34 Grading Charges and Market Value

05:59 Consistency and Mistakes in Grading

07:13 PSA's Business Strategy and Criticisms

Dr. Beckett delves into the definition(s!) and complexities of shill bidding with guest Patrick Ryan. They explore the nuances of what shill bidding entails, its impact on the sports card hobby, and discuss personal experiences and misconceptions. They also touch on issues within the grading industry, the importance of true scarcity versus graded rarity, and the ethical standards of auction houses. This in-depth conversation aims to shed light on critical aspects of the sports card market and offer insights into making informed decisions as a collector.

 

00:58 Transaction Fees and Fairness in the Hobby

02:08 Auction House Practices and Ethical Concerns

04:08 PSA Grading Controversies

06:57 Collecting Strategies and Scarcity

15:02 Reflections on Mistakes and Moving Forward

Dr. Beckett talks with Patrick Ryan, who shares his experience of mistakenly bidding on his own item and they discuss the ethics, legality, and nuances of shill bidding. They explore the differences between defensive and offensive bidding, the importance of auction rules, and what constitutes fair practice in the auction world. They also address the broader implications on auction behavior, reserve prices, and the responsibilities of auction houses.

 

01:00 Understanding Shill Bidding

01:12 Personal Auction Stories and Ethical Dilemmas

04:02 The Role of Reserves in Auctions

12:42 Bidding Strategies and Market Insights

16:14 Historical Context and Price Guide Methodology

Dr. Beckett and Darin Ostrom continue their deep dive into the art of designing sports card sets, especially those aimed at kids. They discuss the importance of storytelling through card subsets and the balance between rarity and collectibility. The conversation touches on historical sets like Fleer Teams In Action and Topps Total, as well as the evolution of card designs. The episode also features anecdotes about entrepreneurial endeavors in the sports card industry and the relentless drive needed to innovate and captivate collectors of all ages.

 

00:30 Designing Card Sets for Kids

01:29 Storytelling in Sports Cards

04:58 Retail and Distribution Challenges

07:28 Entrepreneurial Ventures in Sports Cards

12:21 The Rise and Fall of Card Companies

Dr. Beckett is joined by Darin Ostrom, aka Sports Card Professor, to delve into the 1990s efforts by companies like Pro Set and Fleer to engage young collectors through educational and community-focused initiatives. They discuss the FACT (Football and Academics) program initiated by the Cincinnati School Board and how Pro Set and Fleer tried to reach kids via collectible card sets. The conversation also explores the challenges and short-lived success of various card initiatives aimed at kids, providing insights into the strategic missteps and eventual downfall of these brands. Additionally, the discussion touches upon the importance of creating kid-friendly environments in card shops and the potential strategies to capture the interest of young collectors today.

 

00:15 1990s Efforts to Engage Kids in Sports Cards

02:02 Pro Set's Nationwide Expansion and Challenges

06:02 Educational Integration of Sports Cards

08:25 Challenges in Finding 1990 Cincinnati FACT Cards

12:18 Innovative Card Concepts in the 1990s

15:39 Strategies for Engaging Kids in the Hobby

17:09 Creating Kid-Friendly Card Shops and Events