Dr. Shirley Turner wreaked havoc on the lives of many, most notably, terrorizing the Bagby familiy. Turner would murder their only son, Andrew, and grandson Zachary in acts of selfishness and entitlement. What drove this woman to commit such atrocious acts against her boyfriend and her infant son? What, if anything, could have been done to stop her from spiraling in this way? On this episode, Michelle and her good friend Amy discuss the murders of Andrew and Zachary, the signs and symptoms of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), and how this all relates to the Depp v. Heard Trial.

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