Jacob speaks with Natasha, who shares her journey with Kratom and her struggles with addiction, including 7ohm. She details her attempts to quit, the challenges she faced during detox, and the support she received from her family. Through recovery groups and sober living, she has made significant strides by relying on community and seeking assistance. 

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