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E60: AI in the Techno-Economic War with China with Vinod Khosla, Todd Young, and Jacob Helberg


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In this episode of Upstream, we're publishing a session recorded live at The Hill & Valley Forum in May 2024 hosted by Jacob Helberg, and featuring Vinod Khosla of Khosla Ventures, and Senator Todd Young (R-IN). Khosla and Young dive straight into the most pressing national security concerns regarding the threat of AI. In this techno-economic race, the winner will have economic and military control over Southeast Asia, Africa and Latin America. AI is a technology capable of that much influence is described as being comparable to an atomic bomb. If AI is viewed through the lens of an atomic bomb, should the U.S. be forming a new Manhattan Project? Would you open source the Manhattan Project?


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(00:00) The Urgency of AI in the Techno-Economic War

(01:13) Exploring AI's Role in Modern Warfare and Global Influence

(08:33) Sponsor: Beehiiv | Squad

(11:34) The Global AI Supply Chain and National Security Concerns

(17:23) Open Source vs. Closed Model Debate in AI Development

(22:26) Closing Remarks

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