Filmmaker Ingrid Haas is the writer and director of PUSH, a short film created in partnership with PUSH for Empowered Pregnancy to raise awareness about stillbirth prevention. In this episode, Ingrid shares her personal journey through pregnancy loss, how those experiences led her to advocate for families, and the creative process behind PUSH and the Stillness is an Illness campaign. Together, Ingrid and Dr. Dekker discuss the realities of stillbirth, the importance of listening to families' concerns, why fetal movement matters, and how storytelling can educate both the public and health professionals. Ingrid also highlights resources for parents and ways to support systemic change in U.S. protocols. Content Note: This episode discusses pregnancy loss, stillbirth, and related experiences. Please take care of yourself while listening. October is Pregnancy and Infant Loss Awareness Month. For more information, visit: marchofdimes.org/pregnancyandinfantlossmonth (01:44) Ingrid's Story of Pregnancy Loss and the Road to Filmmaking (05:56) The Sliding Doors Concept Behind PUSH (10:01) Depicting Labor and the Realities of Stillbirth on Screen (17:12) The Goal of the Stillness is an Illness Campaign (21:15) Challenges of Counting Kicks and Different Pregnancy Experiences (25:29) Viewer Reactions and the Power of Feeling Seen (26:50) Why Listening Matters: Preventable Stillbirths and Provider Dismissal (29:35) A Call to Action: Signing the Petition for Updated U.S. Protocols Resources

• Watch the film and learn more: pushpregnancy.org
• Explore free stillbirth prevention resources: pushpregnancy.org/resources
• Check out Count the Kicks: countthekicks.org
• EBB 243 – Importance of Kick Counting for Preventing Stillbirth with Stephaney Moody, Health Equity Ambassador of Count the Kicks

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