Interview recorded - 20th of June, 2025On this episode of the WTFinance podcast I had the pleasure of welcoming back Professor Steve Hanke. Steve is the Professor of Applied Economics and Founder and Co-Director of the Institute for Applied Economics, Global Health, and the Study of Business Enterprise at The Johns Hopkins University. He is also the co-author of the recently released book “Making Money Work: How to Rewrite the Rules of our Financial System”During our conversation we spoke about Steve's outlook for the economy, how uncertainty is created during this system shift, change in banking policy, how the FED are too hawkish, potential for a recession and more. I hope you enjoy!0:00 - Introduction2:48 - Outlook on the economy6:22 - Drivers of money supply7:40 - Higher interest rates11:04 - Changing bank policy?13:15 - Uncertainty in markets?16:49 - Recession?17:50 - Trump economic revolution?21:52 - FED too hawkish?25:12 - One message to takeaway?

Steve H. Hanke is a Senior Fellow, Contributing Editor of The Independent Review, and a Member of the Board of Advisors at the Independent Institute. He is a Professor of Applied Economics and Founder and Co-Director of the Institute for Applied Economics, Global Health, and the Study of Business Enterprise at The Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. He is also a Senior Adviser at the Renmin University of China’s International Monetary Research Institute in Beijing, and a Special Counselor to the Center for Financial Stability in New York. Hanke is also a Contributing Editor at Central Banking in London and a Contributor at National Review. In addition, Hanke is a member of the Charter Council of the Society for Economic Measurement and a Distinguished Associate of the International Atlantic Economic Society. He is ranked as the world’s third-most influential economics influencer by FocusEconomics in Barcelona, Spain.

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