In this episode of the Awareness to Action Enneagram podcast, Mario Sikora, María José Munita, Seth "Creek" Creekmore and Lee Fields continue their conversation on the pillars of spirituality – wisdom, efficacy, compassion and wonder – that help us engage with the world. They discuss how understanding how the mind works makes people more compassionate. 

“In my experience, understanding how the mind works makes me more compassionate.” -María José [12:25]

“I think if anybody takes anything away from this, it’s that this is what we’re advocating for. In order to truly grow as a human being, you have to go out into the world and engage with it. And to do so skillfully, you have to cultivate wisdom, compassion and efficacy, and a good dose of wonder as well.” -Mario [18:53]

“I didn’t always quite understand why is it an important fact that you work with business people? Rigorous environment, that sort of thing and it was really helpful for me to understand that it’s because the consequences are a lot more measurable than a book club on a Saturday afternoon.” -Creek [22:02]

“It’s practicing the tool and there’s a “spiritual component” to that. To your point, Creek, it’s getting up everyday and doing this stuff. It’s applying it in real life. And that’s enabling people or empowering people to be leaders in their own lives, to be managers of their own lives, whether they’re business people or not.” -Lee [33:24]

TIMESTAMPS

[00:01] Intro

[04:21] To recap what we’re striving to develop

[05:46] Definition of efficacy

[10:38] Thoughts on compassion

[14:43] Thinking is a doing

[19:16] Our approach is for people, full stop

[27:13] Measuring results

[32:08] We use it because it works

[37:30] Outro

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