Companies still seem to focus on generating likes on social media. But does it equate to revenue? Unless you're working with a guy like today's guest, it might not be. Alvaro Sandoval got his start in marketing awhile back, but after some key pivots he's gotten into an interesting and cutting edge area of marketing: chat bots. Writing a robust chat bot is a great way to build rapport with your target audience, and have presence with your people even when you technically can't be there. Plus, it provides a great way for people to opt in or out, while still being completely honest about being a bot. It was hard not to go down a geeky rabbit trail with this guy, but if you get to know him, you'll probably learn a thing or twelve. If you'd like to get in touch with him, find him on LinkedIn, or email him directly: [email protected]. Beep, boop, let's get in the loop.