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Alcohol can look like the problem, until you notice what it was solving.
In this episode, Ailey is joined by writer and speaker Laura McKowen, founder of The Luckiest Club and author of We Are The Luckiest, for a conversation that begins with sobriety and opens into something deeper. Embodiment, shame, appetite, and the hidden intelligence behind the ways we cope.
We explore how alcohol can both numb and, at times, create access to sensation when the body feels out of reach. From there, we look at the quiet triangle many people live inside, moving between substances, food, and relationships in search of safety.
We talk about cross addiction and why removing the substance does not remove what is underneath. And we move into the tender terrain of relationships, where emotional sobriety asks how we stay connected without losing ourselves.
We also touch on writing as a tool for healing, and how giving language to our experience can support deeper integration.
If you are exploring sobriety, patterns of coping, or what it means to come back into relationship with yourself, this conversation offers a compassionate place to land.
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Alcohol can look like the problem, until you notice what it was solving.
In this episode, Ailey is joined by writer and speaker Laura McKowen, founder of The Luckiest Club and author of We Are The Luckiest, for a conversation that begins with sobriety and opens into something deeper. Embodiment, shame, appetite, and the hidden intelligence behind the ways we cope.
We explore how alcohol can both numb and, at times, create access to sensation when the body feels out of reach. From there, we look at the quiet triangle many people live inside, moving between substances, food, and relationships in search of safety.
We talk about cross addiction and why removing the substance does not remove what is underneath. And we move into the tender terrain of relationships, where emotional sobriety asks how we stay connected without losing ourselves.
We also touch on writing as a tool for healing, and how giving language to our experience can support deeper integration.
If you are exploring sobriety, patterns of coping, or what it means to come back into relationship with yourself, this conversation offers a compassionate place to land.
In this episode:
You can read the full transcript here.
Learn more about Ailey Jolie:
To follow along with the In This Body podcast:

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