Feeling stressed and struggling to sleep? You’re not alone!

In this special episode of “Better Than Fine,” host Darlene Marshall welcomes world-renowned stress and sleep expert Dr. Jaime Tartar for an insightful, down-to-earth conversation on how stress truly impacts our shut-eye—and what we can do about it.

Drawing from both personal experience and scientific expertise, Darlene and Dr. Tartar break down what stress really is, demystifying how it lives in our nervous system, affects our bodies, and warps our perception of reality. Dr. Tartar shares fascinating findings about the evolutionary roots of stress, why modern life is out of sync with our biology, and even reveals that some indigenous cultures don’t have a word for insomnia!

You’ll hear practical, research-backed strategies for reclaiming your rest—from the importance of calming pre-bed routines to the neurological detriment of blue light in your bedroom. The discussion doesn’t shy away from the real-world challenges, like needing a phone nearby for emergencies, and how perfection isn’t the goal—small changes make a big difference.

Get actionable tools for managing rumination and anxiety at night, learn why your brain clings to negative thoughts (thanks, evolutionary ancestors), and discover why both Darlene and Dr. Tartar say transparency about our struggles is key for everyone—including coaches and wellness practitioners.

If stress has taken a toll on your sleep or your clients’ well-being, this episode is packed with science, solutions, and empathy.

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The content shared in this podcast is solely for educational and entertainment purposes. It is not intended to be a substitute for professional advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek out the guidance of your healthcare provider or other qualified professional. Any opinions expressed by guests and hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of NASM.

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