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In this episode of Even Here, Even Now, I (Mara Glatzel) am joined by the incredible Beatriz Victoria Albina—functional medicine nurse practitioner, somatic experiencing practitioner, master certified somatic life coach, host of the Feminist Wellness Podcast, and author of the forthcoming book End Emotional Outsourcing.

We dive deep into the concept of emotional outsourcing—a term Beatriz created to describe the intersection of codependency, perfectionism, and people-pleasing. We talk about how so many of us habitually look outside ourselves for safety, worth, and belonging, and the toll that takes on our authenticity and agency. Beatriz shares personal stories and practical examples of how these patterns show up in everyday life, from over-apologizing and avoiding conflict to feeling responsible for everyone else’s emotions.

We explore the roots of these behaviors, tracing them back to childhood survival strategies and the impact of larger systems like patriarchy and capitalism. Beatriz offers a compassionate, non-pathologizing approach, encouraging us to meet ourselves with tenderness and understanding rather than blame.

She introduces her BRAVE framework for reclaiming self-trust and presence: Body first, Recognize the outsourcing, Ask what I want, Voice a small act of self-loyalty, and Encourage yourself like a best friend. We discuss the challenges and discomfort that come with setting boundaries and prioritizing our own needs, and how to support ourselves through those moments.

We also talk about Beatriz’s new book, the importance of pre-orders, and the joy of celebrating even the tiniest steps toward self-connection. This conversation is full of warmth, humor, and actionable wisdom for anyone ready to move from emotional outsourcing to anchored selfhood.

Interesting Points of Conversation:

• 0:00 — Introduction and why this Bea's work resonates so deeply with me
• 2:00 — Beatriz introduces herself and her (amazing) work
• 3:45 — What is emotional outsourcing? Why Beatriz coined the term
• 5:30 — The cost of sourcing worth, safety, and belonging from outside ourselves
• 8:00 — Real-life examples of emotional outsourcing in relationships and at work
• 13:45 — The seesaw of resentment and self-neglect; taking on the therapist role
• 17:00 — The roots of these patterns in childhood survival strategies
• 22:00 — The impact of societal systems (patriarchy, capitalism) on our sense of self
• 25:20 — The BRAVE framework for reclaiming self-trust and presence
• 30:00 — How to support yourself through the discomfort of setting boundaries
• 35:00 — The importance of self-compassion, celebration, and tiny “kitten steps"
• 47:45 — Details about Beatriz’s new book, pre-order bonuses, and where to find more of her work