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In this episode of Ask the Coaches, Brock and Lucho answer listener’s questions about How Run/Walk Training Works, How Different Types of Bikes Affect Training, Using Heat vs Cold for Fitness, How to Train for the Mile, and more!
I’m training for my first true ultra, a 55-hour event on December 30th in Houston, called the Snowdrop55. It’s done on a 0.7-mile loop and it’s done to raise money for children’s cancer research. My main goal is to get to 100 miles in the least time possible (hoping for 24 hours). My secondary goal is to tack on at least 50 more miles before the end of the event to get to 150 total miles.
Here’s my question, I’ve been building up by not only running long but by doing a ton of walking. I completed a trail marathon (with 5,000 feet of climbing) about 6 weeks ago, did a downhill half marathon (2,000 feet of descent) two weeks ago. Have had my biggest volume week ever (54 miles running plus 32 miles of walking) a few weeks ago. Despite a “niggle” in my right glute/hamstring attachment, I’ve completed a four day stretch of over 70 miles of running and walking.
So here’s my question. I run/walked for three hours this morning using a 2’ run/2’ walk protocol (but reset at the end of each mile), which ended up having me complete 16 miles at 11:05 pace. I then walked 4 more miles and had a massage (which helped the glute/hamstring but also flushed out my legs), whereupon my legs actually felt great. I’m going to continue to put on the miles the next two days and see where it leaves me.
Here’s my question, I’ve listened (actually geeked out), on your physiological analysis of training for sprints (<9 sec, 20-30 sec, etc.), and wonder if there’s a corollary for ultra running. Obviously, this can apply to training, but it also will apply on race day. It strikes me that the 2-minute run/walk intervals allow the muscles to recover in a way that I’ve never really felt before. It seems to me that my legs are more stressed after 2 hours of non-stop running than they are after 4 hours of the run/walk protocol. Are you familiar with any science behind this? Are there ideal intervals? I’m planning to do a 40-50 mile day in the next couple of weeks to both prepare and to test out this method. One thing is for sure, the walking volume has to be helpful, since it’s something I’ve never done before, and I’ll be doing a ton of walking in the event.
My present plan is to maintain the 2’ run/2’ walk protocol until I can’t:), while hoping that I can maintain it until the 10-12 hour mark. This goal has mental and physical significance to me as it relates to Ironman but would also put me in position to walk the remaining hours to achieve my goal.
I am training for my third Ironman in March 2019 (Ironman New Zealand) and have been doing a lot of my commuting to work, as well as bike training on my mountain bike. Can you please let me know if this is detrimental to my bike performance as I am racing on a Cannondale Slice Time Trial Bike.
I will usually ride my bike to work once or twice a week and do a ride with my girlfriend on the weekend, so I am riding about 3 to 4 hours on my mountain bike and the rest of my training is about a further 4 hours either on my spin bike or time trial bike. I can tell that my heart rate is pretty high when I am riding my mountain bike, but am worried I am utilizing different muscles compared to riding the time trial bike which may be reversing any gains I am making?
I’m a 53-year old male mountain biker in Phoenix, AZ. I will frequently over-dress for a mountain bike workout because I feel like there are a host of benefits from getting a good sweat flowing during a workout. I also have an unheated pool in the backyard, and with nighttime temperatures dipping into the low 40’s, a plunge in the pool gives me a big cold shock. I try to stay in the water between 3 and 5 minutes, but never long enough to start shivering since I’ve heard that is an indicator that you’ve gone too far into developing a stress response.
I separate my hot workouts from the cold plunge by several hours, typically a sweaty morning ride and an evening cold plunge; but I still wonder if I’m working at cross purposes. Am I negating any potential benefits of either strategy by doing both? Or should I pursue a more cyclical strategy where maybe one or two weeks is heat adaptation and then move into a cycle of cold adaptation. I would love to hear your thoughts.
I have the goal on 2019 of running a sub 5 min mile! I am a former: Collegiate track athlete and ran a PR 400 of 56 and 400 hurdles in 60 and Professional long course triathlete.
My last and only known mile time is 5:13, which I ran this past spring just after duathlon nationals (where I placed 2nd OA – 1st AG).
For the past few months, I have been mostly biking and focusing on strength, only running 1-2 x a week.
This coming year I turn 40 and before it’s too late, I want to try and run a sub-5 min mile, but I don’t know where to start!!! How much run volume should I have per week (hours)? Do you have an idea of some key workouts I could incorporate into my training?
On this episode with the Sock Doc we take a dive into what it means to embody a “less is more” lifestyle. Tawnee recently stayed with the Sock Doc and his family during her vanlife travels and saw first hand how they operate without shoes, in nature and by keeping it all simple.
In this episode of Ask the Coaches, Brock and Lucho answer listener’s questions about knowing your potential as an athlete, what is the way to run downhill, how to not rely on your GPS so much, and the best way to return from a sacral fracture.
But first, the intro banter, updates, and random wisdom…
My question today is how do we know what our potential is as an athlete? I’m 25 years old and feel as though I am a decent athlete but in the back of my mind, I wonder if I could be elite.
In high school, I ran a 5:00 minute 1600m PR but was hardly committed to the sport. I cared more about socializing and would often go play basketball at the local church when we were supposed to be doing our long runs. I would then sprint back to the coach to make it look like I was winded from running. ?
When I got out of high school I ran some 10 milers (PR of 1 hr 3 min) and a couple marathons (PR 3 hr 2 min) running about 30 to 40 miles a week. I was also very lax about my workouts and skipped a bunch throughout the cycle.
In my first and only triathlon (Olympic distance) I finished with a time of 2 hrs 27 minutes (placed 20th overall) but the bike was a loaner and I only trained on it for a few weeks.
Now I want to get serious about triathlon and I have been obsessing about the possibility of being elite or going professional. I truly believe that I can be great at the sport but how does one know what their max potential is? Other than a commitment to training and being a glutton for punishment. What is the next step to put me over the edge to be great? Obviously, I lacked the elite level commitment until this point but I never wanted to be elite until now.
Simple simple question. No eloquent backstory, like other listener inquiries. And, maybe I have missed this answer over the years.
What is the best or most efficient technique to run fast downhill in a road race? Net-net… explain how. Let’s say it is a road race with rolling hills.
Now the short story: When I run races I easily pass others on the uphill runs, you may say effortlessly. But I get passed each. and. every. time. on the downhill. Is it technique or fitness or training method?
I asked a question back in ATC 260 about breaking 3 hours in the marathon. I had previously run 3:01 and 3:02 in Boston. I am 44 years old and was trying for under 3 hours at the Scotiabank Marathon in Toronto. Well, I came so close finishing in 3 hours and 5 seconds. I wanted to pass along a lesson for your listeners.
Don’t rely on your watch to pace you, run on the race clock. I had my Garmin set to show me average pace knowing that I had to average 4:15 per km to break 3 hours. I was averaging 4:13 per km when I hit the 40 km mark and saw that the time to that point was 2 hours and 52 minutes. I was not going to make it. I sped up and ran the last 2.2 kms in under 4 mins per km but it still wasn’t quite enough.
Oh, well, it was a good race and I learned a good lesson about pacing and racing. I figured out why my average pace on my Garmin was off, when I was running due to weaving around other runners and going through the aid stations I actually ran more than 42.2 kms and so the average pace per km was misleading for my overall time.
So, I haven’t been in the pool for years. And when I did “swim?” I didn’t kick or rotate well. Now that I’m forced back into the pool due to a 3rd sacral stress fracture I really want to do it right this time.
However, for the next few months, I can’t kick (need to use pool buoy as not to move the sacrum that much). Any tips or drills I could do using the buoy so that when I can start to kick I’m not that out of shape?
We’re back with Tawnee interviewing our good friend, Dr. Phil Maffetone. On this show we discuss ways that you can ADD beats to your MAF heart rate and also new additions to the 180 Formula on when you should subtract beats from your MAF. Click here for Phil’s full article on the 180-Formula Review and adding beats to MAF.
In this episode of Ask the Coaches, Lucho and Brock tackle listener questions about achieving a BQ if you are a noob, losing weight with keto, what to do when MAF stops working, and how to prepare for a cold 3k swimming race. But first, in their intro banter, they talk about:
Complex overhead squat
Cross-body dumbbell snatch
I recently started listening to endurance planet and I’m in love. I just finished my 2nd full marathon and I want to keep building off of it. My goal is to run the Boston and I want to learn what are the best resources to use in order to achieve this? For example, what are some of the best training schedules, best ways to learn proper nutrition for me, what strength workouts to incorporate into training, Garmin vs Apple Watch? I’m also excited to purchase a heart rate monitor. I’m 23 years old and turning 24 & I love Neil Young. I really want to keep learning and building my knowledge. I also want to be able to afford it.
I am 53. I am a lifelong runner and have been a triathlete since 2000. I ran a 3:02 Marathon when I was 18 but didn’t run another until I was 41. I have whittled my time down from 4:01 to 3:09. Since turning 50, I haven’t been able to run any faster than 3:16.
I ran across one of your podcasts and started to wonder if I use the MAF Method and learn how to follow a ketogenic diet, can I reverse things and enjoy a few more years in the sub 3:16 range? More info: 2011 – 3:11, 2012 – 3:09, 2013 – 3:14, 2014 – 3:21, 2015 – 3:16.
I have really struggled with my weight since turning 50 so wonder if I start the ketogenic diet, can I get down to a proper race weight. I am 5’8″ and feel that my best racing was done at the 155-160 pound range.
I am signed up for the Modesto Marathon which takes place on 3/31/19. I would like to use this to establish a base Marathon time for Ironman Arizona 2019. Should I start MAF now prior to starting my train up on 1/1/19?
This is my third and most dedicated Low HR block in the past 4 years. I am 6 months into a strict MAF training block at a HR of 138 to 142 (39 years old) always walking at 144 to 145 HR. I really wanted to quit the first two months, but have finally seen some positive results. I can now run much farther before my HR creeps up, there are many hills that I can run up (slowly) now, and MAF tests are the best ever, but I am still slow. I really feel like I have become a better slow runner! Not exactly what I want.
I am actually in a very dedicated training block for nothing. Some loose goals have been met:
After all these months I am now scared to run at HRs over 141-142 and don’t know what to do next. So my questions:
1. What next? Do I just continue at low HR and see where it goes? I would like to run with my friends again. Maybe another 6 months of MAF and I can.
PS – Low HR training is beautifully simple but so annoying!
I am looking forward to competing in an open water (river) wetsuit swimming race (OSW) next July here in Finland. Here is a short race description by the organizer:
3000 meters
Start after midnight 15th of July 00:05 (Finnish time).
I’d say I have a solid background in swimming, I am not a pro, but not the slowest either. My current 1k pool record is a tad under 17 min which I swam with a pull buoy on Sept. 22. So I’m rather confident that I’ll make the race in less than 55 mins. In 2015 I swam the 3.8k of a full distance triathlon in 1:10h.
Now the problem I am facing is I am not sure how to structure my swim training in order to comfortably swim 3k next July. How do I get from 1k to 3k? How do I structure my training so it makes sense? What kind of training does that require?
I started adding structure to my swimming sessions at the beginning of August, after some 500m drill based warm up I did 3x400m. With the same warm up I am now at 500m, 600m, 800m, 600m – so totalling roughly 3k, in between sets I go and dip in a 6 Degree Celsius pool to accustom to the still floating ice in the river. Nah, just joking there is no more ice by then =) but I do dip. And finish off with a 100m and 50m sprint.
I should say that I am hitting the pool only once a week, I am desperately trying to squeeze in a second session, but it’s tough. Well, you know family, social life, work etc.
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