Enneagram Adventure

Recording from Tannah’s grandma’s condo with ancestral portraits in the background, Tannah and Holly discuss Enneagram and identity, emphasizing the Enneagram as core motivation rather than behavior. Tannah (an Enneagram 2 with a strong 3 wing) describes an Instagram reel that sparked questions about switching between “high performer” and “warm mom,” leading to ideas about the performing self, relational self, and private/true self. They connect these selves to childhood patterns, image and financial security, and how twos can slip into “give to get,” fixing others, and managing emotions to reduce anxiety tied to abandonment. Tannah shares resentment and autopilot caretaking at home and while helping her grandma, while Holly notes boundaries and not being responsible for others’ feelings. They touch on ego/identity death, re-parenting, generational coping styles, technology/AI shifts, and propose a future episode on each type’s shadow side.

00:00 Grandma House Intro

00:54 Enneagram Identity Setup

02:23 Long Text Origin Story

03:13 Work Mom Personas

04:47 ChatGPT Pep Talk

06:59 Three Selves Framework

11:19 Two Wing Three Drivers

13:26 Money Security Roots

16:28 Looks Vanity Conditioning

20:35 Relational Give To Get

22:19 Morning Resentment Loop

23:30 The Fixer Timeline Trap

24:47 True Self After Self Care

25:40 Breaking Autopilot Patterns

27:40 Grandma Caregiving Resentment

28:37 Not Responsible For Feelings

32:29 Ego Death And Inner Voices

35:32 Abandonment Wound And Anxiety

41:03 Generational Coping And Therapy

42:53 Nostalgia Tech And AI Shift

44:58 Integration Takeaways Next Steps

46:42 Grandmas House Sign Off



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Holly and Tannah welcome back guest Casey to Enneagram Adventure for an episode focused on Enneagram Type 8 motivations, tying in recent podcast “constructs,” including the “childhood triangle” questions: what you needed to do to get/keep friends, to feel safe, and to feel rewarded (including love). Casey shares that she most resonates with control, not being seen as weak, and learning vulnerability by naming emotions beneath anger and allowing others to help her process things. She describes childhood and teen patterns of protecting quieter friends and her sister, staying constantly busy, withdrawing from conflict to avoid saying something regrettable, and seeking recognition through leadership roles while still feeling “not good enough.” They discuss Midwest culture’s discomfort with bluntness, preferences for written gratitude, awkwardness receiving care, and Casey’s candid reactions to gifts, plus her conflicted feelings about surprise parties. The conversation closes with a brief note about a relay supporting an ultramarathon runner.

00:00 Storm Day Pickup Chaos

00:31 Casey Returns for Eights

02:11 Podcast Intro and Disclaimers

03:05 Eight Motivation and Vulnerability

05:40 Letting Others Show Up

08:37 Gratitude Awkwardness and Logic

10:42 Written Words Over Speaking

14:14 Childhood Triangle Explained

15:16 Friends Protection and Planning

17:03 Safety Through Staying Busy

19:24 Reward Recognition and Belonging

22:52 Invites Belonging and Saying No

25:25 Concerts Personal Space Boundaries

26:31 The Too Much Question

29:22 Midwest vs East Coast Eight

30:50 Too Direct in Public

31:32 Subtypes and Testing Rooms

34:53 Gift Reactions and Gratitude

39:19 Surprise Parties and Control

41:58 Prom Itinerary and Old Phones

43:48 Anger as Secondary Emotion

45:07 Unexpected Behavior and Kids

47:06 Confidence and Enneagram Typing

49:10 Wrap Up and Relay Tease

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Holly and Tannah open by discussing Holly’s recovery from a recent car accident and how getting Botox improved Tannah's mood, self-perception, and “go with the flow” attitude, including anecdotes about facial movement, post-treatment rules (no lying down or sweating), and a triathlon cyclist whose Botox affected his ability to look up while riding. They then introduce their podcast, Enneagram Adventure, explaining they are IEQ9-certified Enneagram coaches and that the Enneagram measures core motivation. The episode’s topic combines unmet needs with a “childhood triangle” framework—friends, safety, and reward—plus related questions: “Am I safe? Am I loved? Do I matter?” They apply it to types 5 (Holly), 2 (Tannah), 8, 9, 3, and 6, describing childhood dynamics, how each seeks safety/reward and maintains friendships, and how unmet needs can lead to withdrawal, passive aggression, anxiety, or “proving” value; they note they will cover types 4, 1, and 7 later and close with a call to follow, subscribe, and read their new Substack.

00:00 Botox Catch Up

00:32 Botox And Mood

02:13 Frozen Face Stories

04:23 Botox Aftercare Tips

06:05 Podcast Intro Enneagram

07:07 Unmet Needs Triangle

09:57 Type Five Childhood Roots

14:55 Type Two Reflections

23:15 Type Two Unmet Needs

25:48 Type Eight Dynamics

28:46 Friends Roast Each Other

29:25 Lifelong Small Town Crew

32:30 Why Eights Need Strength

34:02 Nine Peacekeeping Patterns

38:37 Three Achievement Rewards

43:35 Six Safety And Planning

51:20 Wrapping Up And Where To Follow

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Holly and Tannah open by joking about misshapen sourdough loaves that resemble rabbits, then Holly shares details of a recent car accident in southern Wisconsin where a semi-truck rear-ended her Tesla in a construction-zone merge, crushing the back of the car; she went to urgent care and is physically okay but is dealing with insurance questions, possible totaling, and the emotional aftermath, noting Tesla’s automatic 911 call, driver notifications, and multi-camera footage showing the truck appearing not to brake and hitting twice. They then shift to the episode’s topic: the Enneagram “centers of expression” (also called centers of intelligence), emphasizing development and balancing thinking, feeling, and action, recommending paid assessments like iEQ9 for personalized rankings beyond typical triads. They discuss how centers show up in language, cultural misconceptions about action sounding more confident, and how different center orders can create loops, avoidance, impulsive fixing, or regretful actions.

00:00 Rabbit Bread Reveal

01:35 Catching Up and Grief

02:15 Car Accident Story

06:01 Tesla Safety and Footage

09:08 Aftermath and Perspective

12:29 Centers of Expression Intro

14:16 Why Paid Assessments Help

16:59 Triads and Personal Nuance

19:30 Language of Each Center

21:10 Combos and Taking Action

25:19 Deciding to Stop Ruminating

27:03 Action First People Explained

28:21 Thoughts Mistaken for Feelings

29:27 First Responders and Reactivity

31:05 Repressed Feeling and Regulation

33:02 Nature Versus Nurture Debate

34:33 Living With an Eight

35:56 Fight Flight Freeze Fawn Links

37:49 Eight Energy Baby Advice Story

41:37 Feeling First Daily Life

43:36 Emotional Trash Bin Overflow

47:49 Feel Act Fixing Trap

49:42 Wrap Up and Support

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Ahead of a planned trip to California, Tannah and Holly (both IEQ9-certified Enneagram coaches) open with travel prep, family banter, and a reminder that Enneagram type is about core motivation, not just behavior highlighting how wings can contribute to mistypes (e.g., a person “giving seven vibes” but testing as an eight). They unpack what wings are (only the adjacent numbers) and outline three common wing theories: one dominant wing for life, wings shifting across life stages, or using both wings equally (as an integration goal). Using personal and coaching examples, they discuss how wings show up across the types, including perfectionism in 1-wing energy, 9w1 procrastination, and differences between 8w7 and 8w9, then close with a call to like/subscribe and check out their Substack.

00:00 Travel Prep Banter

01:58 Beach Plans and Sea Glass

02:52 Podcast Intro and Enneagram Basics

03:46 Why Wings Get Confusing

06:30 What Wings Really Are

07:03 Three Wing Theories

09:15 Wings in Coaching and Mistypes

13:21 Two Wing One vs Three

16:01 Nine Wing One Perfectionism

20:07 Nine Wing Eight Project Mode

22:36 Eight Wing Seven Dynamics

25:02 Fasting Crankiness Story

26:42 Subtype and Thinking Energy

27:35 Do Eights Wing Seven

28:39 Social Eight Bear Energy

30:01 Seven Wing Eight Edge

33:49 Seven Wing Eight In Action

37:56 Six Wing Five Similarities

39:01 Five Wings and Feeling Work

41:53 Four Wings and Creativity

44:53 Three Wings Two vs Four

47:30 Two Wing Reflections

50:08 Wrapping Up and Farewell

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Tannah and Holly open with a casual chat about erratic March weather in Wisconsin, parenting challenges, reducing kids’ screen time, and enjoying outdoor activity, including an outdoor Peloton run with inaccurate distance tracking. They mention interest in a new Enneagram workplace book, then introduce their Enneagram Adventure podcast and remind listeners that Enneagram is about core motivation, not behavior. Inspired by a Rich Roll clip, they discuss “willingness” as essential for change and how pain—both involuntary (health scares, loss) and voluntary (exercise, hard conversations, cold plunge, early mornings)—can catalyze willingness. They apply this to each Enneagram type by stance: 3/7/8 must slow down and sit with discomfort; 4/5/9 must stay present and be seen; 1/2/6 must loosen perfectionism, stop overgiving, and tolerate uncertainty. They close by noting you can only work with the willing, asking for reviews, and teasing future merch and a retreat.

00:00 March Weather Catchup

00:36 Kids Chaos And Screens

02:31 Real Life Experiences

03:06 Outdoor Peloton Run

05:17 New Enneagram Work Book

07:02 Podcast Setup And Disclaimer

08:18 Willingness And Pain

17:43 Voluntary Versus Involuntary

21:27 Assertive Types Three Seven Eight

29:08 Withdrawing Types Intro

29:30 Type Four Seen

31:44 Type Five Show Up

34:09 Type Nine Change Push

39:46 Compliant Stance Overview

40:09 Type One Inner Critic

42:54 Type Two Overgiving Trap

47:27 Type Six Uncertainty Loop

50:31 Wrap Up And Next

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Hosts Tannah and Holly open with upper Midwest weather swings, parenting challenges around kids’ big emotions and screen-time detox, and a story about one child being recognized for helping a classmate and the resulting sibling jealousy. They introduce the podcast’s Enneagram focus and explain that the Enneagram centers on core motivation (deeper than assessments like Myers-Briggs), plus virtues (healthy return to self) and time orientation, not to “put people in a box” but to recognize patterns and offer a path out. They review all nine types by triads: 8 (Challenger: strength/control; virtue innocence; future), 9 (Peacemaker: avoid conflict; virtue right action; past), 1 (Perfectionist: be good; virtue serenity; present), 2 (Helper: be loved/needed; virtue humility; present), 3 (Achiever: success; virtue truthfulness; future), 4 (Individualist: identity/uniqueness; virtue equanimity; past), 5 (competence; virtue non-attachment; past), 6 (security; virtue courage; present), 7 (happiness/avoid pain; virtue sobriety; future). They close with a call to subscribe, review, and follow, mention possible merch, and note a Substack blog version.

00:00 Snow Day Chaos

00:39 Big Feelings Parenting

02:30 Praise And Sibling Rivalry

04:21 Podcast Welcome And Setup

05:07 Enneagram Basics Refresher

07:32 Gut Triad Overview

08:05 Type Eight Challenger

14:15 Type Nine Peacemaker

18:41 Type One Reformer

25:19 Heart Triad Begins

25:28 Type Two Helper

29:21 Two Humility Practice

30:59 Two Time Urgency

32:10 Three Truthfulness Over Image

33:35 Three Future Focus Procrastination

36:01 Four Equanimity Grounding

37:48 Four Past Romanticizing

38:55 Five Competence Nonattachment

42:17 Five Reflection Overthinking

43:40 Six Courage Preparedness

45:46 Six Present Time Paradox

46:28 Seven Sobriety Reality

49:01 Seven Future Whats Next

49:51 Wrap Up Wings Merch

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On the Enneagram Adventure podcast, Tannah and Holly discuss how people turn “I am” statements into identity labels—often using their Enneagram type as an excuse for behavior—rather than using awareness to build new capacity. Citing a therapist’s post, they explain that labels create certainty, but once a pattern becomes “who you are,” you stop challenging it and start protecting it. They explore examples across types: ones using perfectionism or being “hard to read,” twos excusing overhelping as caring, threes using adaptability in ways that can feel inauthentic, fours attaching to emotions and avoiding hard conversations, fives identifying with not knowing enough, sixes over-planning worst-case scenarios, sevens avoiding discomfort to stay fun and free, eights resisting control even in small requests, and nines avoiding conflict by default. They invite listeners to reflect, share experiences, and follow the show on platforms and Substack.

00:00 Spring Forward Chaos

00:19 Solo Parenting Storm Night

02:33 Doomscrolling And Creating

03:35 Podcast Intro And Enneagram

04:30 Excuses And I Am Labels

08:52 Type Two And Five Patterns

10:16 Post On Identity Labels

16:53 Childhood Labels And Maturity

20:52 Type One Perfection Stories

24:58 Type Three Chameleon Energy

31:01 Boundaries Feel Clunky

31:53 Type Four Identity Labels

32:51 Four Emotions Rollercoaster

35:26 People Pleasing Confrontations

37:29 Parenting Emotions Left Out

38:43 Type Six Prepared Anxiety

40:20 Worst Case Scenario Planning

43:44 Type Seven Fun Freedom

47:19 Type Eight Control Resistance

52:47 Type Nine Conflict Avoidance

55:20 Wrap Up Listener Takeaways

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In this episode of Enneagram Adventure, Tannah and Holly discuss a social media post titled “I’m the Problem” (from Aligned Soul Co) as a potentially triggering but useful prompt for self-awareness, emphasizing the Enneagram as a tool for understanding core motivation (“your why”), not just behavior. They read and react to “I’m the problem” statements for multiple types—starting with Eight (bulldozing, testing people, accidental intimidation), then Two (keeping score and “buying” love), Five (protecting energy by shutting down or disappearing), Four (making feelings others’ responsibility and using depth to create distance), Six (creating the chaos they fear and anxiety spreading), Nine (peacekeeping through avoidance and silent resentment), Seven (avoiding heaviness with constant optimism and exits), Three (performing to be impressive and turning connection into competition), and One (high standards and feedback that makes others feel wrong). They close by noting everyone has growth work and inviting listeners to like, subscribe, comment, and share.

00:00 Tea Wisdom Banter

01:22 Podcast Intro Enneagram Basics

02:23 Why Self Awareness Matters

03:23 Im The Problem Setup

06:05 Type Eight Reality Check

08:16 Eight Tension Truth Bombs

12:28 Type Two Keeping Score

16:25 Two Work Recognition Currency

18:18 Type Five Disappearing Walls

20:55 Runaway Coping Mode

22:41 Enneagram Four Zingers

26:34 Sixes Testing And Anxiety

30:41 Nines Avoiding Realness

33:53 Sevens Escaping Heavy Stuff

36:30 Threes Performing To Win

39:40 Ones High Standards And Critique

45:29 Awareness And Wrap Up

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Tannah and Holly celebrate the one-year anniversary of their Enneagram Adventure podcast (recorded February 21st), thank listeners, and share plans for upcoming guests, including an Enneagram 4 author and a longtime Enneagram 5 listener, plus a possible sibling episode featuring a 9. They discuss real-life updates: Tannah’s exhaustion from a month of sick kids, stretching and folding sourdough during the recording (starter named Rocco), learning baking lessons, and processing grief after Bentley’s death, including receiving his ashes and putting a deposit on a future beagle puppy. They introduce the episode’s topic: recognizing uncomfortable “growth moments,” staying present, and turning awareness into action instead of repeating patterns, framed through Enneagram core motivations. They walk through several types and how growth can show up: 5s escaping into their head and practicing “stay in the room”; 2s feeling it in the body and tending to walk away or double down; 3s multitasking or barreling through discomfort and considering their move to 6; 7s rushing toward feeling better and their move to 5; 1s doubling down on rules and humility that can become resentment; 4s quickly identifying feelings but needing to avoid getting stuck and separating identity from emotion; 8s shifting into anger or withdrawal and growing by moving toward 2-like awareness of others’ needs (illustrated through Tannah’s husband supporting her during a hard month); 9s avoiding conflict and telling themselves stories instead of staying to work through solvable issues; and 6s over-planning, chaining meanings together, and attaching events to themselves when they may not be personal. They close with anniversary gratitude, a request for likes, shares, subscriptions, reviews, and comments, and an invitation to reach out with questions or to be a future guest.

00:00 One-Year Podcast Anniversary + Thank You to Listeners

01:34 Upcoming Guests & Sibling Episode Ideas

02:34 Exhaustion, Sick Kids, and Real-Life Podcasting

03:26 Sourdough Stretch-and-Fold, Starter ‘Rocco,’ and Baking Wins

05:27 Grief Update: Bentley’s Ashes & Getting a New Beagle

06:38 Show Intro: What Enneagram Adventure Is About

07:42 Today’s Topic: Noticing Growth Moments and Staying Present

08:48 Personal Examples: Exhaustion, Triggers, and ‘Growth Opportunities’

13:21 Two & Five Patterns: Body Signals vs. Escaping to the Head

15:40 Staying Present as a Five + Inner Monologue & Being Called Out

22:22 Applying It to Other Types: Starting with Threes (and Sevens)

25:28 When Discomfort Turns Sharp: Pausing Instead of Striking Back

25:55 Growth Lines for 3s & 7s: Slow Down, Get Thoughtful (6 and 5)

27:17 Same Behavior, Different ‘Why’: Core Motivations of Threes vs Sevens

28:46 Ones Under Stress: Rule-Following, Perfectionism, and Living in the Gray

30:10 Giving Ones Credit: Humility, Resentment, and Scorekeeping

32:35 Fours & Feeling Misunderstood: Find Evidence of Support

33:45 Don’t Become the Feeling: Separating Identity from Emotion

35:09 Personal Rabbit Hole: Letting Go of the ‘Broken’ Identity

36:27 Eights in Real Life: Grief, Avoiding the Moment, and Moving Toward Two

41:09 Nines & Conflict Avoidance: Stay in the Room (Plus a Movie Analogy)

44:58 Sixes: Planning, Chaining Stories, and When It’s ‘Not That Deep’

47:41 Wrap-Up & Anniversary Banter: ASMR Jokes, Sourdough Talk, and Call to Action

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