Songs To Live By is a podcast celebrating different generations of Black culture through a shared love of music. Host Vick Hope is joined by two guests, who grew up at different times, to share the songs that shaped their lives.

In this episode Vick is joined by singers Enny and Pauline Black to talk about listening to pirate radio in the night-time, what's in a name, and Black music in 1970s Britain sound-tracked by Sweet Female Attitude, Billie Holiday, BeBe and CeCe Winans, and Steel Pulse.

Enny was catapulted to international fame with her song Peng Black Girls. Pauline Black is the lead singer of the two-tone band, The Selecter, and has been described as the Queen of British Ska.

Producer: Cecile Wright