Soul + Practice: Raw Conversations & Real Practices with Kathy Escobar & Phyllis Mathis

Ep. 121: Staying Human in the Hard with John Pavlovitz


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We feel so grateful to get to play with kindreds and gather some extra goodness in the middle of so much hard! We loved hanging out with John Pavlovitz, writer, activist, storyteller, and friend for a little bit this week. He helped us remember how important it is to stay human in a dehumanizing world. It's a gift to be alongside long-term advocates who keep saying stuff that needs to be said and dream for a better more equitable world despite so many obstacles. You can find all of John's work at johnpavlovitz.com.
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