In this episode, Brent sits down with Nick Chertock — an accountant by trade, lifelong mid-handicap golfer, and one of the most influential non-coaches in the golf instruction world. As co-founder of Open Forum, Nick has spent the last 10–20 years immersed in conversations with some of the best golf coaches on the planet, asking the questions many golfers and coaches never think to ask. Despite not being a touring professional or teaching full-time, Nick has become a trusted connector, discussion starter, and advocate for smarter golf improvement. In this conversation, Brent and Nick dive into what Nick has learned from decades of observing elite coaches, whether all that knowledge has actually improved his own golf game, and the dangers of information overload for both golfers and instructors. They also share behind-the-scenes stories from time spent around world-class coaches, explore how great coaches filter information differently, and discuss where golf instruction is heading next. This episode is a must-listen for golfers and coaches who want to cut through the noise, think more clearly, and improve with intention rather than overwhelm.

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