In this lively and tangential episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Gemma reflect on an evening spent seeing Robin Ince speak about neurodivergence, ADHD, and the importance of passion. From rogue pygmy shrews to ultraviolet birds and eccentric geniuses, the conversation weaves in and out of the evening’s takeaways, unravelling what it means to be unashamedly interested in the world. They explore the power of identity through diagnosis, why tangents are a feature not a bug, and how environments can welcome authenticity. The episode also touches on hierarchical values in outdoor spaces, the performative pressure of being “an expert,” and why imperfect passion beats polished performance. If you’ve ever loved something deeply and been told to tone it down—this one’s for you.

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⏱ Chapter Timings:
00:00 – Pygmy shrew panic and under-the-table guests
01:47 – Shrews taste bad: prey, predators, and side quests
03:20 – Ultraviolet vision and birds seeing wee trails
05:08 – “Like birds do”: comedy stories and water spitting
06:22 – Reflections on Robin Ince’s talk and ADHD diagnosis
08:01 – Two sides of the coin: forgetfulness and brilliance
09:45 – The beauty of subjective, honest storytelling
12:54 – Vulnerability, unmasking, and joy without shame
15:01 – Hierarchies of value: washing up vs wonder
21:26 – The transactional myth of brilliance and acceptance

🌲 Keywords: ADHD, neurodivergence, Robin Ince, authentic passion, Forest School values, child-led learning, identity through diagnosis, intersectionality, nature-based education, humour in education, embracing tangents, pedagogy and personality, outdoor learning philosophy, invisible struggles, joy and vulnerability

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