Joshua Rovner, Associate Professor in the School of International Service at American University and author of Strategy and Grand Strategy, joins the show to discuss the tension between pursuing military victory and securing a nation.      

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Times

    •      01:28 Introduction

    •      01:35 MIT 

    •      05:03 Grand strategy         

    •      10:45 Peloponnesian War 

    •      18:05 Spartan strategy        

    •      22:34 Pericles           

    •      27:18 A terrible irony    

    •      32:43 Disastrous victory          

    •      41:35 British power

    •      46:13 Atomic strategy

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