Licensed counselor and author Debra Fileta is back for her third appearance, and this one hits different — she's here to talk about the skill we're all convinced we already have. Levi and Jennie dig into Debra's new book People Skills, unpacking why our tech-saturated world is quietly eroding our ability to connect, why most of us privately think this book is for someone else (spoiler: it isn't), and how communication styles — passive, aggressive, passive-aggressive, and assertive — show up in something as simple as a wrong order at a restaurant. Plus: Debra shares the moment God changed her perspective on public speaking anxiety, Jennie confesses she's a chameleon in social situations, and Levi admits cocktail parties are somehow scarier than 10,000-person crowds.

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Time Stamps:

00:07:46 – Introducing People Skills — and Jennie's very tabbed-up copy 

00:08:26 – Why we're losing the art of real human interaction 

00:18:44 – The room full of strangers exercise: how do YOU show up? 

00:25:45 – Stop focusing on what they give you, focus on what you can give 

00:49:10 – Passive, aggressive, passive-aggressive, assertive