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In this episode, I’m joined by success coach Gabe Cox to dig deep into one of the most effective strategies for writing copy that truly resonates: verbatim messaging. We’re breaking down how using your customers’ exact words—not just guessing at what they want—can lead to major boosts in your conversion rates. I’ll also walk you through the DMO framework (Desires, Motivations, Obstacles) that I rely on to uncover those golden insights directly from your audience. If you’ve ever struggled to connect with your customers or feel like your messaging is falling flat, this episode is packed with actionable tips to help you turn things around.
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In this episode, I’m joined by success coach Gabe Cox to dig deep into one of the most effective strategies for writing copy that truly resonates: verbatim messaging. We’re breaking down how using your customers’ exact words—not just guessing at what they want—can lead to major boosts in your conversion rates. I’ll also walk you through the DMO framework (Desires, Motivations, Obstacles) that I rely on to uncover those golden insights directly from your audience. If you’ve ever struggled to connect with your customers or feel like your messaging is falling flat, this episode is packed with actionable tips to help you turn things around.
Listen to the full episode to hear:
FREE Resources to Grow Your Online Business:
Work with Gillian Perkins:

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