You'll love this conversation if you've ever wrestled with the fact that achieving your dreams can look and feel different than you expected.

Annie B Jones is most well known for owning The Bookshelf bookstore and for her book-focused podcast From the Front Porch, but now she's on the other side of publishing industry as she releases her debut book of essays Ordinary Time: Lessons Learned While Staying Put.

In this conversation, Annie and I talk about how dreams don't always look the way you planned, like living near your hometown, owning a bookstore, even (especially?) writing a book! Our lives look so different from one another, but we found so many parallels.

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