The Forest School Podcast

Ep 28 - Pay to play: Is outdoor play a class issue?


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In this misty, reflective episode Lewis and Gemma savour a fog-shrouded morning in the woods, admire dew-spangled spider-webs and commiserate over hay fever—before taking on a thorny topic: is outdoor education a right or a privilege? They kick off with the BBC’s recent “walled-playground” story and a thought-provoking blog by Nick Lewis on the hidden costs of outdoor pursuits (DofE kit, waterproofs, etc.). Drawing on personal experience as both a publicly funded Forest School provider and a private endeavour, they explore the tension between universal free access and the realities of running a sustainable service. Along the way they wrestle with questions of social justice, state versus private provision, land availability, and what true equity in outdoor play might look like—before teasing upcoming workshops on creative storytelling and drama at the Somerset Play Forum (June 19) and their Bardic Forest School event (28 April). It’s a candid conversation that holds up a mirror to the movement, urging deeper empathy, political imagination and collective action.

⏱ Chapter Timings:
00:15 – Fog, dewy spider-webs & hay fever woes
00:32 – Morning weather check & nature’s stillness
01:06 – Topic intro: outdoors as right or privilege?
01:56 – BBC story: gated play area for affluent residents only
02:27 – “Poor doors” & social-housing exclusion in new developments
03:36 – Nick Lewis’s blog: hidden costs of outdoor adventure (DofE kit, waterproofs)
04:47 – Reflecting on middle-class blind spots in outdoor education
06:01 – The cumulative burden: kit lists, session fees & family budgets
07:06 – Forest School as springboard vs weekly indulgence
08:37 – Personal conflict: running both publicly funded & private Forest Schools
10:15 – The piano-teacher analogy: paying for specialized expertise
11:13 – State-funded early years: could outdoor credits work?
12:15 – Land loss, privatisation & shrinking free Green Space
13:04 – Political vision: equal outdoor provision in national curriculum?
14:32 – Ofsted-registered kindergarten vs self-pay weekend sessions
16:02 – The private-public tension: quality, autonomy & sustainability
18:38 – Idealistic policy vs current funding realities
20:41 – Imagining government subsidies for outdoor learning credits
22:19 – Champagne-lemonade, nursery-funding caps & quality trade-offs
23:51 – Re-released doc “The Age of Stupid” & climate-change urgency
26:03 – Call for listener feedback on accessible outdoor practice
27:11 – Upcoming events: Storytelling at Somerset Play Forum (19 June) & Forest School Bardic Day (28 April)

🌲 Keywords: outdoor education equity, Forest School funding, play-area exclusion, social justice, DofE kit costs, public vs private provision, land access, early-years credits, story-telling workshops

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#OutdoorEducation #ForestSchool #AccessForAll #PlayEquity #StateVsPrivate #SocialJustice #NatureConnection #SomersetPlayForum #AgeOfStupid #StorytellingInNature

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