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Andrew Francis is the founder of ZENDEN, Canada's first drop-in centre dedicated to sound healing and reiki, and the soon-to-open home of Vancouver's largest multi-modality wellness studio. His work is rooted not only in holistic wellness, but in lived experience including recovery, entrepreneurship, and the ongoing practice of self-honesty.

Andrew has navigated substance addiction and sobriety, while also building a business in the wellness space. His path intersects spirituality, performance, ambition, and leadership offering a rare opportunity to explore addiction not as a label, but as a pattern that can evolve alongside identity, success, and belonging.

In this episode, we explore: - How addiction can shift from substances into ambition, building, and identity - The relationship between early performance, visibility, and the hunger to "be someone" - Why sobriety doesn't end the work — it often deepens it - The importance of truth and transparency in wellness leadership - What it means to build a business and spiritual foundation rooted in lived reality, not image

This conversation isn't about blame or diagnosis. It's about curiosity, integrity, and creating space for founders to tell the truth about what they're actually navigating.

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