Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Ep 41: Bisexuality in Swinging: Barriers Broken, Desires Awakened


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This week, the vampires sink their teeth into something a little different. Zack and Josie cozy up with their irresistible friends Luke and Rickie—an erotica author with a wicked imagination and her equally adventurous partner—whom they first met under the sultry moonlight of Desire Riviera Maya. Together, they peel back the velvet curtain on their journey into the lifestyle, from sizzling first encounters to the thrills (and giggles) of bi-comfortable play.

No topic is off-limits as the conversation winds through pegging, prostate pleasure, DVP, and the deliciously complicated dance of desire when all four partners are fully in sync. Along the way, Luke and Rickie bare the truth about bisexuality, breaking down the double standards that paint men and women so differently, and revealing just how freeing it can be to embrace the unexpected.

Whether you’re curious about crossing boundaries or just love eavesdropping on sexy, candid stories, this episode offers both a bite of wisdom and a taste of naughtiness. Even if you’re not looking to go bi, you’ll find yourself enthralled—and maybe just a little tempted.


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(00:00:00) Introducing our guests, Luke and Rickie

(00:02:32) Erotica…a gateway to the lifestyle

(00:05:28) It all started with Vegas

(00:07:59) We were like scared children experiencing our first house party

(00:09:18) We went all in

(00:10:48) I’m a heterosexual man but enjoy the pleasure of another man

(00:14:07) The complexity and hypocrisy of bi men vs women

(00:17:56) How the bisexual conversation started

(00:20:07) I don’t want you to see me as less of a man

(00:22:47) The evolution of lifestyle desires

(00:26:32) Changing our beliefs is an evolution

(00:28:42) The MM fantasy is on women’s minds

(00:30:04) It’s only enjoyable for me if you also find it enjoyable

(00:32:57) Strap-ons, prostate orgasms and stigmas

(00:36:09) She has the hormones of a teenaged boy

(00:37:31) Helping inexperienced couples explore bisexuality

(00:40:05) Removing barriers to foursome play

(00:44:03) DVP took my orgasm to a level 10

(00:48:43) Fun foursomes; condoms and bisexual play

(00:52:41) Orgasms and controlling squirting 

(00:56:18) Putting less significance on the orgasm can make it easier to orgasm

 

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About the author

She referred to two books specifically in this episode. They are:

Perfect for Me and Stay for Me


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