Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Ep 43: From FF Fire to Full Swap Desire: One Couple’s Journey


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This week, the vampires turn down the lights and turn up the honesty. Zack and Josie welcome Stone and Selene, a couple who first stepped into the lifestyle so Selene could explore her attraction to women. What began as a soft spark of curiosity evolved into a full swap journey—complete with steamy firsts, emotional growth, and plenty of delicious self-discovery.

Stone opens up about his own inner work—navigating the envy and insecurity that came with watching Selene experience pleasure with another man. Their story isn’t about drama or broken trust; it’s about personal reflection, emotional courage, and a deeply supportive partnership. With Selene by his side, Stone learned how shifting beliefs can unlock new levels of connection and play.

From FF encounters to unforgettable threesomes (and that oh-so-important “who’s in the middle?” moment), this episode is a reminder that real growth can be just as sexy as the play itself.


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(00:00:00) Selene finally shared with Stone that she wanted to explore women

(00:04:11) Stone supported Selene in FF but didn’t think it included him

(00:05:57) Selene’s first FF experience

(00:09:02) Their first threesome

(00:12:17) With threesomes the question is who’s in the middle?

(00:14:08) Their favorite threesome position…it’ll make you hot!

(00:17:27) Bliss was their first lifestyle experience

(00:20:18) Selene’s mindset shift changed her experience

(00:23:14) Being a little naughty was her favorite thing

(00:25:20) The first time she had sex with a man other than Stone

(00:28:24) Selene had to work through her feelings

(00:31:18) A supportive spouse makes a huge difference

(00:34:02) He was handsome and he fucked her brains out

(00:36:28) It was fun but it was difficult to work through the feelings

(00:39:06) Stone had to stop the play session and that can be hard

(00:40:54) He had to go to work on himself

(00:42:50) He felt insecure and had a lot of feelings to work through

(00:44:19) Reframing experiences and changing core beliefs

(00:46:08) Selene was heartbroken watching Stone struggle

(00:48:28) Brad and Brittany helped them turn a corner in couples play

(00:50:44) Judgment around number of play partners

(00:53:14) Reconnection sex is the hottest sex

(00:54:39) These are normal feelings

 

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