Balanced Natural Health with Dr. Maz

Ep. 48: Why do we get “sick” (part 2) & how does the human body self-heal?


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We continue our exploration from the previous episode, and consider: how does the human body self-heal?

How are symptoms actually an indication of the body’s infinite wisdom & self-healing power, and how can we support these processes to move to completion and healing (rather than suppressing them)? What happens if we do suppress them?? How does the human body self-heal then?

Unlike modern medicine, Chinese Medicine supports the body’s self-healing processes, helping them to move towards their completion. In this episode, I share perspectives on health through the lens of the oldest science in the world, Chinese Medicine. A science that has persisted for over 5,000 years (some say 8,000… and it may be older still!) and is all about living in harmony, both within and without.

Listen for simple ways that we can cultivate these vital aspects of ourselves, for radiant health and self-healing.

(00:00) Welcome to the podcast

(00:32) Episode into, recap of why we get sick & how does the human body self-heal?
(04:11) what do symptoms like phlegmy lungs, sinus congestion & fever indicate?
(05:08) We humans have more microbial cells than “human” cells!
(07:05) How does the human body self-heal? Bacteria & other microbes help us
(10:35) How Chinese Medicine supports the body’s self-healing, rather than suppressing it
(11:22) The Eight Strategies, or Ba Fa, of Chinese Herbal Medicine
(17:41) Our bodies are infinitely wise & always move towards healing
(18:16) Case study: how a Candida “infection” benefitted the greater whole
(24:35) Mould sickness & our inner terrain, Dampness, low Yang

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Introduction

(00:00) Hi everyone, welcome to the Balanced Natural Health podcast where we share insights from the ancient science and timeless wisdom of Chinese medicine. Information from the old natural ways of healing can support us in leading more beautiful, more vibrant and more vital lives today. In this podcast I share simple, natural and accessible tips that you can incorporate into your everyday life for more vibrant health and wellness. I’m so glad you’re here.

Episode Welcome, and how does the human body self-heal?

(00:32) Hi everyone, I’m Dr. Maz and welcome back to episode 48 of the podcast. In today’s episode, we are continuing on from our exploration in the last episode about what it is that makes us sick, from a Chinese Medicine perspective, and does the human body self-heal.

And it is not invisible baddies, or germs / bacteria / microbes / viruses that we “catch” from other people that make us sick. From a Chinese Medicine perspective, the main causes of disease are a loss of harmony and balance, both with our world within – our inner world of emotions – and the world without – the environment, the climate and conditions around us. So in Chinese Medicine, staying balanced and in harmony with our inner world and our outer world is what maintains health, and allows our brilliant system to heal itself.

Health blooms both from harmony within…

(01:25)We understand that emotions can be a major contributor to disease because we are energetic beings, and emotions are simply energy in motion. And when they’re not in motion – when our emotions aren’t moving, when they’re stuck or repressed or ignored – they can snag our energy body, our biofield, our aura. And when our energy field and our Qi meridians are not flowing smoothly, and they’re not communicating as ideally as they should be, then we can start to see disease: this is because things aren’t moving where they need to be moving, and information isn’t being passed in a timely manner.

…and harmony with the external environment

(02:05) And we learned that another contributor to disease is an imbalance of our bodies in relation to the external environment. So for example, in Chinese Medicine, we say that Wind is the “spearhead of 1000 diseases”. This is why we bundle up against winds, we protect against drafts, we don’t sleep under fans, and we wear scarves in windy weather, because the neck is where Wind can get in. And when Wind and Cold get into the meridians that traverse our neck (and also our lower back, we like to keep that covered and toasty as well), we get frozen and flow is trapped on the surface.

So, how does the human body self-heal? “Symptoms” are one of the body’s wise responses to restore balance

And that is when an early stage “Cold” can arise. So, we might get tightness in the muscles of the neck, we might get that achy feeling that might indicate that a cold or flu is brewing, we might feel lightly flushed, and we might have some light sweating or fever. And all of this is, in fact, the body’s wise response to that Cold, and the resultant freezing of the surface: the body is trying to bring warmth to the surface to push that cold back out.

A very different (yet very ancient!) view on what it means to be healthy

(03:18) So we can see that these disruptions to internal harmony and outer harmony provide a very different view of health than the militaristic mindset of being constantly on edge against invisible baddies and “germs” that we need to defend against. I love that the focus is on harmony and balance, rather than waging war. And I think that that shift alone really benefits our nervous systems in the long run, too – that focus on what we’re creating, rather than what we’re fighting against, especially when it’s not the true cause of disease.

And I think it’s also interesting that this microbe idea or germ theory of disease is relatively recent, whereas Chinese Medicine has held its view of health for millennia, at least 5000 years, if not longer. And it has stood the test of time, so there is so much we can learn from it!

(04:12) In this episode, we’re going to look at a Chinese Medicine perspective on what happens when we do manifest symptoms. What does it mean, for example, when we get phlegm on the lungs or in the sinuses, or when we have a fever, or diarrhoea? How do we explain that from a Chinese Medicine perspective – and how does the human body self-heal?

We will also look at the Eight methods or the Eight Strategies of herbal medicine, and they describe different ways that we use herbs – and tastes and flavours – to support the body’s processes of restoring balance when it has been disrupted. So, for example, if we have constipation, we will use a certain treatment strategy, and if we have phlegm on the chest, we use a different treatment strategy. So we’ll learn more about that as well.

Review of previous episode – we are more microbe than human!

(05:03) Recapping on what we learned in the previous episode, staggeringly and amazingly, we humans actually have more microbial cells than human cells. So we have more bacteria and fungal (including yeast) cells than actual human cells. And together we live in a community which comes together in symbiosis that supports life (this also forms a big piece of the answer to “how does the human body self-heal?”)

And while it might seem that bacteria or microbes are the “baddies” when we look at the fact that they might be present, for example, in phlegm or mucus cultures when there are symptoms of disease (when there is, say, bronchitis or a chest infection, we can see that there are certain bacteria that might be more prevalent) there is actually a different view that paints these little friends in a different light. And what if, in fact, they were not the problem, but they were the cleanup crew? And that is how I see it – that our friendly helpers come to the party and help us restore balance.

(06:09) Let me explain a little bit more. But firstly, I’d like to bring to mind the image of a compost heap – and what happens in a compost heap.

Those of us who’ve had a garden or a compost heap before, we know that we throw food scraps on a compost heap, and then there are worms and microbes that help to break down these discarded bits of food, and help to break them down into something that will nourish the earth, which then feeds into the next stage of the cycle of life. So it’s a way of digesting the remnants, the leftovers, into a form that is usable by the soil, and by the next generation of plants – and which then nourishes us in return. So we can see that life cycle is continuing.

How does the human body self-heal? One key factor is microbes as a clean-up and recycling crew

And this is how I see our microbial helpers. As I see things, our bacterial friends not only do important tasks – like synthesising vitamins, for example, which they can do for us in the gut – but they can also be on call to process and compost and recycle damaged cells and tissues.

For example, imagine that we’ve been somewhere where we’ve been inhaling air that has something that’s challenging to the lining of the lungs. Maybe we’ve been by a busy road all day, and we’ve been inhaling a lot of diesel and petrol fumes. Or maybe we’ve been in a building in which there’s inadequate airflow, and maybe off-gassing from new plastic products, or carpet or paint or something. Or maybe we’ve been exposed to certain non-native frequencies that can upset the particular cell types or particular tissue types in the lungs. There can be many reasons for disruption to cells or tissues anywhere in the body. 

(08:04) So, assuming that people have been exposed to something that’s disrupted function, how does the human body self-heal? If the body is not well resourced to process that disruption, we may need to call on some extra help. Our bodies are amazing and so adaptive, and they help us adapt to so much and process so much. And that’s why I always talk about prioritising optimal nutrition with whole foods, getting adequate rest, drinking structured water, aligning with the cycles of nature, moving our Qi, limiting how much we have in our toxin bucket, and so on, so that we can be well resourced to adapt to and respond to these challenges.

But, if for whatever reason our vitality is a bit low – maybe we’ve had some stress or snagged emotions that are stagnating our Qi, or maybe there’s been a little bit more toxins in general recently – then we can’t respond as robustly to that challenge. And perhaps, in the example I gave earlier, the lining of the lungs gets a little bit upset and damaged by that exposure to toxins or fumes. Then we have degraded cells, that ideally the body wants to replace with fresh cells that are functioning optimally. So how does the human body self-heal in this situation? Well, it’s with a little help from our microbial friends.

Remove, remediate, reuse and recycle

So what does our brilliant body do? It sends in the cleanup crew. As we’ve seen in a compost pile, that veggie scraps can get degraded into something that nourishes the life cycle. And in our case, when the cleanup crew, the microbes, the bacteria, arrive on the scene, say in the lining of the lungs, they start to digest that degraded tissue. And in the process of doing so, we might get phlegm and mucus because that is how that degraded tissue can get either recycled or expelled out of the body. So we can cough it up and get it out. And what can be reused will be reused. 

Are bacteria the problem? Or part of the solution?

(09:55) If we were to do a culture of the mucus or phlegm at this time, we might notice that there are greater numbers of certain bacteria types. But what if they are not the cause of the problem? What if they are there because they are actually cleaning up the damage – because they are a part of the greater whole’s self-healing mechanism? And so then when we throw an antibiotic at them, then that process of cleanup, remediation and recycling is halted. And that compromised cell and tissue in the lungs doesn’t get a chance to be repaired completely.

Shooting the messenger

In such a case, we might have suboptimal repair of the tissue, and eventually, suboptimal function of the lungs. We’ve killed off our helpers – and some others probably have fallen by the wayside as collateral damage – and yet we haven’t solved the problem. So how does the human body self-heal then? Well, what if instead we took extra care to nourish the body at this time? What if we really doubled down on rest, on nutrition, on food that’s easy to digest? 

This means warm food, which is not adding to further Dampness. This is where nourishing the Spleen, which I talk about so often, is so important. Because if we’re eating in a way that we’re digesting completely, and we’re not adding to further phlegm and Dampness within the body, then the body can really focus its efforts on resolving the local inflammation in the damaged tissue and getting back to balance more quickly.

How does the human body self-heal, and how herbal medicine supports it: the Eight Strategies, or Ba Fa

(11:22) We can speed this process with herbs that can dry the area and help to expel that phlegm. So, rather than suppressing the helpers, in Chinese Herbal Medicine we’re actually supporting the body in completing the process of self-healing that it is attempting to do. And this expelling, or reducing, approach is one of the Eight Strategies that we use in herbal medicine.

Reducing, or Xiao Fa

It’s called the “reducing” strategy – Xiao Fa – wherein we support the body in eliminating what is obstructing flow and function. So it might be phlegm on the chest. It could also be stagnant Blood, in the case of really painful periods with dark blood and blood clots, and here we would give herbs that support the movement of Blood. For the chest phlegm situation, we would give herbs that dry out Dampness, that help to break it up and help it to leave the lungs.

And we might also use this strategy in a situation that we call Food Stagnation, which is when we have eaten too much rich food and overloaded an unsupported digestive system. And then the food just sits there and ferments, and people might get stinky farts, maybe stinky burps, there can be reflux, bloating, or a yellow or thick tongue coating. How does the human body self-heal in this situation and how can we support it? One way is to give herbs that strongly move digestion, they stoke that digestive fire, so that the body can move through that backlog of stagnated food, and bring relief in that way.

(12:48) So you can see that we’re not actually suppressing the symptoms. We’re not giving, say, antacids for indigestion, which would further dampen that digestive fire. The digestion is already overloaded, it is already dealing with stagnated food. But instead we support resolution – with our treatment methods and our herbs, we move in the same direction that the body is moving, and we support self-healing and balance in that way.

Sweating, or Han Fa

Another example of a treatment strategy that we use is “sweating”. As I touched on earlier, we say that Wind is the spearhead of a thousand diseases, and it is one of the most common triggers or causes of an early-stage Cold. And here, we might experience that tight neck, that flushed face, achy muscles, we get fatigued, there might be a light headache, there might be sneezing as well. The sneezing is just the body trying to expel the Wind and Cold through the nose, trying to get it out of the body. So how does the human body self-heal a Cold?

The ways that the body will try to expel this “Cold contraction”, this freezing at the surface, is through a fever or breaking a sweat. So if you have ever woken up in the night with sweats, and especially if you’ve been exposed to cold or a draft during the day, then it’s very likely that this is your body doing its magic to restore balance. Because when we can sweat Cold out (or return warmth to our body surface), then order is restored, that Cold and / or Wind is pushed out, and then the muscles get to soften, flow is restored, headaches ease, that flushed feeling can go because now it’s done what it needs to do.

(14:23) In the modern view, we might be tempted to throw some Panadol or Tylenol at this – something to reduce that flushed feeling, that headachy feeling. But what that actually does is that it stops that body wisdom response of heating up to push things out. And so then that process isn’t completed – it is suppressed instead – and the body’s attempts to self-heal are interrupted.

And because the healing process has been interrupted, then the imbalance that has come from the surface gets to sink deeper into the body – this is because we have worked against the body, we’re not helping it in its process of pushing things up and out. Whereas in Chinese Medicine, we have a sweating method, where for these kind of Cold presentations, we take herbs that help to promote light sweating. We also take some really nourishing, easily digestible warm foods, and then we bundle up and rest, and allow the body to break a light sweat. So this is the directive given in our oldest medical text, and it still works to this day.

(15:22) We often use a formula called Gui Zhi Tang, or Cinnamon Twig Decoction. This is cinnamon and ginger, licorice root, peony root, and jujubes or red dates, for a bit of gentle sweetness to help to support the energy so we can build that sweat, and have that fever. Those warm, spicy, pungent flavours of cinnamon and ginger push open the pores, they push out that Cold and Wind. And so. we might break a light fever – we’re already bundled up, we’ve had some easily digestible food.

What happens if we get in the way of healing? How does the human body self-heal then?

If we take this approach, then we can return to balance and harmony the next day. But If we don’t – if we don’t rest, if we don’t listen to our body’s messages, the messages that it’s telling us that Cold has come in – then what can happen is that the imbalance goes deeper into the body. And then we might start to get a sore throat, or phlegm in the sinuses or in the chest.

(16:19) And this is another way that we can arrive at that phlegmy cough situation I gave as an example earlier. What’s happened here is that the circulation and the Qi mechanism – the Qi circuitry – has been compromised by Wind and Cold initially, and the body wasn’t able to “expel” it. This can be because we’re low on Qi because we haven’t stopped, or maybe we suppressed it with something else, or maybe the body was dealing with other things. And so then it’s gone another level deeper, and there’s been more tangling of (16:49) the energy networks.

And so, lymphatic circulation is affected, fluids aren’t moving so much in the micro-circulation, and we can start to get water-logging and fluid retention in tissues within the body. So say, for example, the lungs aren’t draining as well as they normally would, and they can start to collect bits of phlegm and mucus. And so now we can see that if circulation and Qi – the energy mechanism – isn’t restored, then that phlegm is going to collect and sit there.

When the bacterial friends come in to help digest and compost the damage that has been done to the tissues, if we throw antibiotics at them, then that phlegm doesn’t get to be resolved. And what I love about this perspective is that it reminds us just how wise and powerful and amazing our bodies are!

Our bodies are infinitely wise and brilliant

(17:48) They don’t do anything by mistake, they don’t get sick by accident, they don’t have symptoms by accident, they don’t do things to be annoying. Everything that they’re doing is an attempt to complete a process, and move towards health – they are always moving towards health. So my question is always, how can we support that movement towards health? How can we help, rather than obstruct or suppress?

How a Candida “infection” benefitted the greater whole and supported self-healing

(18:11) I’d like to share another story that I think illustrates this really beautifully. I’ve shared this before in my Candida episode. In that episode, I talked about a patient who had been erroneously given an iron transfusion, and it shot their iron levels way up high. And this is a real concern, because our bodies don’t have a pathway for excreting excess iron – because we’re not designed to receive iron by transfusion in such vast amounts. So when this excess iron is accumulated in the body, it can start to deposit in the organs, and one of the concerns is that it can cause cancer.

So, it’s very important to get excess iron out of the body. And we were very keen, when this happened, to get that excess iron out of the body as soon as possible. There are herbs that we can use to support the process of chelation – getting metals out of the body. But what happened next just shows the amazing wisdom and power of the body. 

What happened was that this person developed a full body rash, which was a yeast or Candida rash. It smelled like a brewery, or fresh bread baking, and it was oozing this orange liquid, which incidentally was the same colour as the iron transfusion. It was incredibly uncomfortable – It was a whole body rash. It was very depleting, it came with a lot of brain fog and just general malaise and low energy. But what was happening was that our little Candida friends were doing what human cells are unable to do, or what human systems are unable to do without help from our little friends.

Candida can process metals – heavy metals. And what these little helpers were doing was providing an exit strategy to exude that iron from the system in the most efficient way. And in fact, what happened was, we retested this person’s blood again, a few months into this process, and the iron had dropped dramatically. It was almost back to normal, and then it returned back to normal shortly afterwards.

Now, this was very uncomfortable for the person. But we also knew that there was a body wisdom reason behind it. And if we’d been to see a Western medicine doctor at this time, we would have been given anti-fungals, and a whole host of possibly antimicrobials to shut down the processes that the microbes were carrying out, effectively shutting down their activity.

(20:43) And, yes – that would have probably reduced the symptoms at the skin level. But it wouldn’t have supported the process of excreting that excess iron, which was much more damaging. And this brings me also to another point, which is that sometimes discomfort is part of the process, unfortunately. But, if we support the body in its process, and allow it to complete that process to its fullest expression, then we actually get to enjoy greater health at the end of it. So this person was very stoic – they stuck with it. Everything got pushed out, or excreted, from the body, balance was restored and the skin returned back to its beautiful original state.

So again, we’re offered a different perspective here on what happens if we deeply trust the wisdom of the body and the processes that it’s going through. We see that the human body is infinitely capable of self-healing – if we don’t stifle its process.

Purging or Draining Downwards, or Xia Fa

This idea of occasional discomfort as sometimes being part of the healing process is something that we might see in another of our treatment strategies, which is the “purging” or “downward draining” treatment strategy, which is basically purging and expelling things through the intestines, like in the case of constipation.

What can also happen sometimes if someone has, say, a lot of Damp or inflammation in their digestive system, then when we give certain formulas that move Damp, there can initially be diarrhoea, and it can be somewhat explosive and sudden. But then generally, what we feel afterwards is ease and relief, because that’s been a really efficient way of quickly moving a large lot of Dampness out of the body. It might not feel amazing for a short time, but sometimes it really is the quickest way of moving things out. 

Vomiting, or Tu Fa

(22:29) Another way, which we don’t use much these days, because it’s much less appealing to modern humans, is vomiting. This was one way of getting things out that were sitting above the diaphragm. So, we’ve got the sweating method, we have the vomiting, the draining, we’ve talked about the reducing method. And then, we also have tonifying.

Tonifying, or Bu Fa

This is where we build up what is depleted. This is one of the more common strategies that we use. We can build up Yang – the spark of life – with warming herbs, we can build the Blood and nourish the Blood. We do this with our food as well, using specific foods for building both Blood and Yang.

Much less so in Classical Medicine than in Traditional Chinese Medicine, we nourish the Yin. This is because we’re much more interested in nourishing the spark of life from a classical perspective, which is by restoring function and the Qi mechanism first..

Harmonising, or He Fa

We might also look at harmonising. That’s another treatment strategy, and one that we very commonly use – in fact, it’s probably the most common method that I use in clinical practice.

And this is one that I often use when we have flu-type symptoms or lingering unresolved inflammation and infections, for example, or even unresolved past instances of flu or glandular fever. These are often presentations that involve the lymphatic circulation, the glands, the interstitial fluids. When we’re harmonising, we bring harmony to the interior and exterior of the body, by regulating and harmonising all the spaces in between.

Warming, or Wen Fa, and Clearing Heat, or Qing Fa

And the final two treatment methods are “warming” what is Cold – and nourishing the Yang – and “clearing Heat” – the goal of which is actually to ultimately preserve the body’s Yang, even though we are clearing it in an acute situation. Clearing heat is not one that we use that often, because in Classical Chinese Medicine, we are very much about maintaining and preserving theYang – the heat, the spark of life.

(24:13) But – if we have a extremely high fever, and the person is losing a lot of their Yang through sweating and fever, then we will use the clearing heat method for a short, acute situation. We do this to preserve their life force – to stop them losing too much life force – before we then go in and keep resolving things further.

Is mould the problem?

Now, before we finish up, I’d like to offer one more example. And this one is about mould.

This is something that we’re hearing more and more about these days, where people are having mould sickness, or they’re thinking to attribute their symptoms of say, fatigue, brain fog, weight gain, pain, to living in a mouldy environment. And yes, absolutely, we want to live in a well-ventilated environment! We want sunlight, we want circulation -that’s absolutely part of it.

But my question is – why can some people be unaffected in the same environment that other people are affected by?

This points to something different in the internal environment of the people involved.

If someone has a warm and sunny, and well-circulated and dry environment within, then they have more capacity to withstand Damp and mould externally. Whereas someone who’s already Damp, inflamed and wet inside – with compromised Yang or circulation – is going to be more easily overrun by external Dampness.

One way that I like to explain this is this. If we have a wet towel and put it out in the sun, it’s going to dry and will be fine, no problem. But if we have a wet towel and throw it in a dark cupboard with no ventilation, then we’re going to get mould.

(25:59) I had a person speak to me recently who had been diagnosed with mould issues, and they were being treated with some pretty intense protocols to kill off the mould. This person had been experiencing crushing fatigue, inflammation, not feeling like themselves, brain fog, a lot of weight gain as well, there was a disruption to hormones and metabolism, a whole host of things – and everything had been pinned back to mould that had been found in a diagnostic test.

But to me, I see things differently,, because I think that the mould is only there because the internal environment was too Damp to begin with. It had gotten out of whack, perhaps from improper diet, like maybe there’d been a lot of cold foods or a lot of fruit that contribute to that state of internal Dampness, for maybe eating foods that don’t support the Spleen in maintaining a warm and toasty, dry environment internally. So then the mould comes in to remediate the situation.

We know that moulds degrade, say, wet wood or wet organic substances – they help to break them down and compost them. And this is what I see was happening – waterlogged, Damp tissues were being worked on by mould to continue that process of recycling in order to keep the life cycle going. Viewed from the perspective, the mould is a self-healing or remediation process.

To give another analogy, if we think of a house that has received water damage, and we see that the ceiling is starting to get mould spots on it, if we just paint over the mould or spray them with bleach – but don’t fix the root cause of that leak – that’s kind of like the Western medicine approach. They just spray the surface with things that are going to kill the mould, but they’re not looking at why has that mould occurred? And how can we restore balance at the root? Because we can kill off the mould in that one area, but there’s going to be imbalances down the track because we still have not resolved the root.

(27:54) So for example, we could paint over that water stain on a ceiling, or we could even seal it with something that doesn’t allow further water to come through, but then that water is going to leak elsewhere – it’s going to have even less movement, there’s going to be more rot happening in the background, rather than if we just got in, dried everything out, patched up the leak, and restored balance and harmony.

Instead, we could view that symptom of say a mould-damaged ceiling as a message from the house, that there is an imbalance somewhere internally, in the same way that we can look at a body with mould as sending us a message to say that there is an imbalance somewhere internally as well. Maybe fluids aren’t moving well, maybe toxins aren’t excreting as well as we’d like and therefore, more fluids are amassing to buffer those.

What if instead we ask, how do we nourish the body to allow it to complete the process that it is moving towards doing already? How can we support our brilliant human body in self-healing? So we might, once again, nourish it with foods that build Qi, that build that spark of life. We take food and herbs that create a warm and dry ventilated environment, we promote circulation with gentle movements, we work with emotional alchemy to help the whole Qi mechanism work efficiently – so it can communicate and make sure that everything is functioning optimally as we move that process to completion. 

(29:24) So I hope this has been interesting and helped to open up a different perspective of how we can work with our bodies rather than against them. A perspective of how we can listen deeply to symptoms as the messages that they truly are; of how we can support our beautiful body-mind-souls in their processes of transmutation; of alchemising what’s happening and of supporting those processes, and of understanding that our bodies are always doing what is best for us.

And if you’d like to learn more about how you can support your body in these processes of transmutation and moving towards ever-greater wholeness, this is the major topic of my Radiant Energy Reset. In this beautiful reset, I guide you through – at your own pace – self-paced modules that explain how to nourish your energy, how to choose foods that are warm and drying, and that promote a balanced internal environment; how we can choose herbs and foods when we get certain different “messages” from the body, we also talk about emotional alchemy, processing our emotions and moving our body with some basic Qi Gong. That is all on my website at drmaz.earth.

If you have found this interesting, please share with someone who may benefit and I look forward to seeing you next time!

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