The Forest School Podcast

Ep 49 - Deep Play vs Shallow: A Case for Boredom


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In this rain-spattered, crisp-crunching episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Gemma huddle by the fire to mull over boredom, deep-vs-shallow play, and why children (and adults) need unstructured pauses to stretch their “play roots.”
From Christmas gift overloads to Minecraft marathons — and a sidetrack on cul-de-sac “Mad Knobbly Monopoly” — they explore how real learning blooms when you don’t rush to fill the silence. Expect talk of nature-connection moments, circle-of-concentration games, green-ink disasters, wind warnings, and… yes… a spirited debate on whether 90s-style woodland gangs really did “just poo behind a tree.”

Chapter Timings
00:00 – Crackling fire, crisp sponsorship & windy weather woes
03:00 – Deep vs shallow play: “What does it do?” vs “What can I do with it?”
06:00 – Christmas gift mountains, four-present rule & spreading gifts through Advent
09:10 – “I’m bored!”: why that’s a feature, not a bug
12:00 – Boredom as nature-connection trigger & Vygotsky circles of concentration
15:30 – Helping anxious kids (and parents) trust the open timetable
18:30 – Endings, flow states & why Forest School sessions dodge hard cut-offs
21:00 – ‘Victim voice’ coaching revisited: stepping back, not stepping in
24:00 – Board-games vs videogames: Mad Knobbly Monopoly, Minecraft & elastic rules
29:00 – Consumer culture, screen breaks & self-sufficient entertainment
33:00 – Teen brain plasticity, technology tugs & the gentle power-down fantasy laptop
36:00 – Lewis’ “poo in the woods” tangent (you’ll never un-hear it)
40:00 – Debrief: resilience through downtime; trusting the pause
43:30 – Upcoming 2024 training dates

🌲 Keywords: boredom, deep play, shallow play, boredom tolerance, flow state, circle of concentration, consumer culture, Minecraft, unstructured time, parent anxiety, wind warnings, woodland toileting folklore

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#ForestSchool #DeepPlay #BoredomBrilliance #UnstructuredLearning #NatureConnection #FlowState #OutdoorEducation #ChildLedPlay #ForestSchoolPodcast #TimeToPause

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