The Forest School Podcast

Ep 52 - Tristan Gooley - The Natural Navigator Interview


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In this lively, idea-packed episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Gemma abandon their promised “earthworm special” to sit down with celebrated natural navigator Tristan Gooley. The trio roam from comedy intros to deep cognition, unpacking how fast-and-slow thinking shapes our perception outdoors, why letting children wander off-trail builds real learning, and how tiny clues—puffball spores, the tilt of a tree, a campfire pancake—scale up to universal maps. Along the way Tristan reveals the editorial battles behind his books, confronts shifting climate cues such as the north-marching Trentepohlia algae, and encourages listeners to join the detective work by noticing anomalies and asking “So what?”. It’s a rich, practical conversation that will have you peering at bird calls, fungi puffs and star paths with fresh curiosity.

Chapter Timings
00:00 – Windy indoor intro, earthworm fake-out & laughter
01:19 – Why Tristan’s books reward rewinding: information density unpacked
02:41 – Origin story: from epic expeditions to two-mile hedge walks
06:22 – Fast vs slow thinking outdoors; Kahneman meets alarm-calling birds
15:45 – Parenting anecdote: following children to a storm-felled tree
20:03 – Puffball revelation: linking tiny fungi to giant landscape clues
31:10 – Keys, signs and making a mental map anywhere on Earth
44:56 – Campfire pancakes as social glue and observational warm-up
55:24 – Climate questions: algae, mild winters and evolving navigation signs
1:08:15 – Universal principles, sharing discoveries and keeping skills alive

🌲 Keywords: natural navigation, Tristan Gooley, fast-slow cognition, outdoor clues, child-led exploration, map-making, puffball fungi, campfire cooking, climate indicators, Forest School practice

🔖 Hashtags:
#NaturalNavigation #ForestSchool #OutdoorEducation #TristanGooley #ChildLedLearning #NatureConnection #MapMaking #ReflectivePractice #CuriosityDrivenLearning #OutdoorPlay

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