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Ep 61 Holding Both The Family You Have and Hope for Another Baby: Secondary Infertility with Allie Karagozian


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Secondary infertility — difficulty conceiving or carrying a subsequent pregnancy — comes with a unique set of challenges. Being a parent with infertility can create tension between feeling grateful for the family you have yet grieving the family you desire.

In this episode, Dr. Lora Shahine talks with Allie Karagozian, occupational therapist, business owner, and podcaster. Allie shares her own fertility journey and why she created a special way to support those suffering with secondary infertility. Through her podcast, Secondary Infertility, and her support groups, Holding Both, Allie provides support for mothers struggling with secondary infertility.

In this episode you'll hear:

[0:00] What is secondary infertility?

[3:20] What are the unique challenges of secondary infertility?

  • Guilt for wanting "more"
  • Providing a sibling for an existing child
  • Age gaps between children and societal pressure to have more

[11:18] Secondary infertility support groups

  • Lack of support for those experiencing secondary infertility
  • The need for a safe space to discuss the challenges
  • The importance of emotional support and community

[20:07] Secondary infertility support for men

  • Men are often sidelined during fertility challenges
  • Men also need emotional support

Resources mentioned:

One and Only by Lauren Sandler: https://www.laurenosandler.com/the-book

Episode with Miscarriage Doula Arden Cartrette: drlorashahine.com/podcast/arden-cartrette-on-pregnancy-loss

Finding Allie Karagozian:

Allie on Instagram: @holdingboth

Allie's Website: www.holdingbothllc.com

Allie's Podcast on Instagram: @secondaryinfertility.pod

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