Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Ep 61: Looping Back: Conversations That Hit a Nerve — And Why


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This isn’t a replay of past episodes—it’s a deeper look at the conversations that didn’t end when the recording stopped. After hearing how certain topics landed with listeners, the crew reflects on what stirred discomfort, curiosity, and strong reactions—and why those responses matter.

Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany unpack listener feedback ranging from opinions about Brad’s penis and uncut men (including one listener’s candid personal experience), to the polarized reactions following their conversation with Roger and Jessica—a committed couple exclusive with another couple who don’t identify as poly. When some female listeners admitted they couldn’t even finish that episode, the group explores what may have made it so uncomfortable and encourages a second listen with fresh perspective.

The episode also includes a sincere apology to Tharen and Aussie listeners everywhere for mistakenly calling Hugh Jackman British (he’s Australian—lesson learned).

Finally, Josie shares the full story of the conversations she had with her two oldest daughters about the lifestyle, the podcast, and Peaches’nCream. Their very different reactions reinforce a key truth first discussed in Episode 59: when it comes to hard conversations, approach matters—sometimes more than the topic itself.


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(00:00:00) Looping back on episode 41 with Luke and Rickie

(00:04:12) Maybe it’s more bi-situational

(00:06:04) We had to analyze why we had an aversion to the idea

(00:07:28) Is MM sex a turn on?

(00:10:51) Three questions for Luke (and Rickie)

(00:13:26) Reactions to Brad’s uncut penis

(00:16:00) Here’s little Brad!

(00:20:17) We apologize to all our Aussie listeners

(00:23:26) And we’re back to glory holes(00:24:20) My OB/GYN has a podcast called The PGSpot

(00:27:11) What is considered ‘lifestyle’?

(00:28:38) Our feelings can be a product of insecurity

(00:32:28) Using the ‘L’ word is controversial

(00:35:00) If your partner announced they loved a play partner

(00:37:14) Playing with fire

(00:40:16) Overthinking things is what this podcast is all about

(00:40:43) Josie told her 29 year old daughter about the lifestyle

(00:46:12) Setting the stage for the next conversation

(00:47:22) Josie’s 34 year old daughter’s response was somewhat surprising

(00:51:07) She said I was more self aware than before

(00:53:03) Your approach matters

(00:56:13) Zack wasn’t there for either conversation but felt good about them

(00:57:18) Our conversations about the lifestyle has deepened our connection

(00:58:42) Exposing ourselves our kids through the podcast


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