In this very meta episode of The Forest School Podcast, Lewis and Gemma finally manage to record their reflections on The Declarative Language Handbook by Linda K. Murphy... after a string of failed attempts involving lost audio, barking dogs, children, Wi-Fi, weather, and philosophical tangents. Fortunately, it was worth the wait.

The discussion explores declarative vs imperative language, the importance of visual referencing over eye contact, and how subtle shifts in language can foster autonomy, reduce anxiety, and improve emotional safety in outdoor education.

They unpack ideas such as the Fawn response, episodic memory, and the unintended power dynamics in practitioner-child relationships. From Lego-based conflict to feral long-haired communities, they make the case for intentionality and curiosity as cornerstones of inclusive pedagogy.

This is one for anyone who has ever told a child to “say hello to Grandma” and wondered if there was a better way.

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⏱ Chapter Timings:
00:00 – The cursed podcast: failed recordings, wild weather, and ash-based cooking
04:38 – Introducing The Declarative Language Handbook and its relevance to Forest School
08:34 – Fight, flight, freeze... and Fawn: the unseen responses to authority
13:02 – Declarative vs imperative language: Grandma's here vs say hello
16:39 – Fawning and masking in sit-down vs child-led settings
21:10 – Episodic memory and its impact on behaviour and learning
26:29 – Eye contact isn’t everything: visual referencing and attention
31:36 – Questions as covert demands: rethinking how we prompt reflection
43:03 – The slippery slope from facilitation to manipulation
49:30 – Encouraging diverse opinions and tolerating differences (without tolerating intolerance)

🌲 Keywords: declarative language, Forest School communication, inclusive practice, emotional safety, fawn response, masking in education, social referencing, child-led facilitation, authority and power in pedagogy, neurodiversity, episodic memory, outdoor learning strategies

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