Terry Considine has nothing to prove. He has launched multiple REITs, including one (Aimco) that was at one point the nation's largest apartment owner. He sold a spin-off REIT (AIR Communities) to Blackstone. But even after that exit and 4+ decades in the apartment business, Terry Considine isn't done — now steering his latest apartment venture, Big 4 Properties. In this episode with host and rental housing economist Jay Parsons, Terry strolls down memory lane to his early years in the apartment business to the time when his portfolio topped 200,000 units to the wind-down of Aimco. Terry also shares why he's starting all over again, and what he's targeting at Big 4. Additionally in this episode, Jay shares his thoughts on the newly released 2026 NMHC Top Owners, Managers and Developers list — and in particular, why multifamily remains one of the nation's most fragmented major industries.