TROJAN WAR:  THE PODCAST

EPISODE 13 “TERRIBLE, GLORIOUS WAR”


Listen Later

THE STORY:  (56 minutes)   As Greek and Trojan forces openly clash on the plains of Troy the goddess Athena imbues a Greek warlord – Diomedes – with fearsome, godlike powers of combat.  So with the Trojan forces in disarray and on the verge of wholescale panic, Hector decides on an audacious plan to save his army.  But can Hector survive his own plan?
THE COMMENTARY:  CAN WAR BE BOTH TERRIBLE and GLORIOUS?  (17 minutes; begins at 56:00) This post-story commentary examines both the “glorious” and the “terrible” faces of the Trojan War.  I first review the arestia of Diomedes, which dominates much of the story in this podcast episode.  I point out that Diomedes’ arestia (or moment of supreme excellence in battle) follows the usual arestia pattern found in Homer's Iliad.  The hero is first imbued with god-like powers; the hero’s armour and weapons are then imbued with god-like radiance (the helmet “burns like a fire”; the bronze spear tip “is like a gleaming star”); the hero racks up an impressive kill count against worthy opponents; the hero receives a setback or injury, but recovers quickly; and the hero goes on to even greater glories before the arestia ends, and the hero becomes “normal” again.  I note that in Homer only heroes are granted an arestia – rank and file foot soldiers are never so lucky.  I then observe that the arestia can be understood as a “compensatory gift” from the gods to a worthy human – the compensation being necessary because the human, no matter how worthy, is ultimately doomed to die.  Finally I observe that sometimes an arestia ends with the death of the hero:  when a hero forgets, at the critical moment, that he is not really a god.
I then launch into an exploration of arestia in contemporary movies, noting that I could find plenty of examples of arestia in superhero or fantasy genre films, but very few arestia in movies based on real human warfare.  This leads me to some hypothesizing about whether, in the 20th and 21st century, we are culturally uncomfortable celebrating “glorious war” – possibly the machine guns and poison gas of World War One dampened our enthusiasm a little?  I then turn to Homer’s treatment of war in the Iliad, and observe that it is remarkably neutral and even-handed.  Homer spares us none of the graphic, gory realities of the battlefield (save for a total absence in Homer of any long term, lingering, or psychological injuries), and Homer is brutally clear-eyed on the civilian price of war (rape, slavery, butchery and death).  But Homer equally paints a picture of fighting men exulting in the sheer, giddy pleasure of knowing “how to step in deadly dance of hand to hand combat”.  I turn the final words of my post-story commentary over to Bernard Knox, a Homer translator; because I think he says it best:   "Three thousand years have not changed the human condition in this respect. We are still lovers and victims of the will to violence, and so long as we are, Homer will be read as its truest interpreter." Homer, tr. Robert Fagles, intro. Bernard Knox, The Iliad (Penguin Classics, 1991)
Jeff
RELATED CONTENT
ANTHEM FOR DOOMED YOUTH, 1917 poem by Wilfred Owen PDF
RELATED IMAGES
...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

TROJAN WAR:  THE PODCASTBy Jeff Wright

  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8

4.8

542 ratings


More shows like TROJAN WAR: THE PODCAST

View all
History on Fire by Daniele Bolelli

History on Fire

5,640 Listeners

The History of Egypt by Dominic Perry

The History of Egypt

1,853 Listeners

Last Podcast On The Left by The Last Podcast Network

Last Podcast On The Left

51,019 Listeners

The History of English Podcast by Kevin Stroud

The History of English Podcast

6,430 Listeners

Myths and Legends by Jason Weiser, Carissa Weiser, Nextpod

Myths and Legends

23,433 Listeners

Dan Snow's History Hit by History Hit

Dan Snow's History Hit

4,807 Listeners

Literature and History by Doug Metzger

Literature and History

1,407 Listeners

Ancient Greece Declassified by Dr. Lantern Jack

Ancient Greece Declassified

496 Listeners

Tides of History by Wondery /  Patrick Wyman

Tides of History

6,304 Listeners

ODYSSEY:  THE PODCAST by Jeff Wright

ODYSSEY: THE PODCAST

191 Listeners

Greeking Out from National Geographic Kids by National Geographic Kids

Greeking Out from National Geographic Kids

17,902 Listeners

The Ancients by History Hit

The Ancients

3,205 Listeners

Everything Everywhere Daily by Gary Arndt

Everything Everywhere Daily

2,106 Listeners

The Rest Is History by Goalhanger

The Rest Is History

14,446 Listeners

Cyber Hack by BBC World Service

Cyber Hack

1,618 Listeners