We begin this episode with a short interview of episode #2 guest Allison Macsas, getting a firsthand recap of her big 2nd place finish at the Vancouver Marathon. Then, we talk highlights from NCAA track and field conference weekend and tell you what to expect for the upcoming NCAA regionals.

For the main part of the discussion, Steve and Chris begin a two-part series on the coach-athlete relationship featuring a real coach-athlete conversation between Steve (as coach) and Chris (as athlete). In part 1, Chris reveals his purpose for running and his big hairy audacious goal (BHAG), while Steve challenges him a little bit on what's most important.