Can fine wine be made with more than just grapes?  Today we speak to esteemed Napa winemakers Steve and Jill Matthiasson about the oldest and possibly most under appreciated kind of wine.   Today’s episode is brought to you by Auction Napa Valley.  To register for a chance to win a pair of tickets to attend the greatest barrel tasting in the United States, go to this link: https://www.sommtv.com/anv2025. No purchase necessary.