In this conversation, Preston interviews Paul Shoemaker, a Colorado firefighter and founder of Next Level Training. They discuss Paul's journey in the fire service, his passion for teaching, and the challenges he faced along the way. They also touch on the importance of authentic conversations and the impact of podcasts in connecting like-minded individuals. The conversation highlights the need for self-reflection and the realization that the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Paul Shoemaker shares his journey of personal growth and transformation within the fire service. He discusses the importance of humility, the impact of negative experiences on his mindset, and the realization that he needed to change himself rather than blaming external factors. He also emphasizes the role of his family, particularly his wife, in supporting his career and personal development. Paul Shoemaker discusses the importance of family and surrounding oneself with like-minded individuals. He emphasizes the need to align with people with similar challenges and goals, particularly in the fire service. Paul also shares his passion for teaching and the responsibility that comes with it. He talks about the evolution of Next Level Training and his vision for the future, which includes creating a platform for other firefighters to teach. Paul highlights the significance of mentorship and empowering backseat firefighters to become subject matter experts. He concludes by encouraging listeners to prioritize family and reach out to him for any questions or discussions about lithium-ion batteries or extrication.