This week we're talking to my friend, Esther Goetz. Esther is a spiritual director, author, podcast host, and all around wonderful human. We talk about spirituality, deconstruction, our evolving thoughts about the Bible, and what it looks like to become your own authority. Enjoy! 

SHOW NOTES: ESTHER GOETZ: https://www.estherjoygoetz.com

ESTHER'S BOOKS: https://www.amazon.com/s?i=stripbooks&rh=p_27%3AEsther+Joy+Goetz&s=relevancerank&text=Esther+Joy+Goetz&ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1

MY BOOK: https://www.amazon.com/Emerging-Rubble-Stories-Shattered-Relationships/dp/B0C7T5TJD4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2B051GGV2WCSI&keywords=glenn+siepert&qid=1700157759&sprefix=glenn+%2Caps%2C399&sr=8-1

SUBSTACK: https://whatifproject.substack.com

ART STUDIO: https://www.whatifproject.net/art

SUPPORT THE SHOW: https://www.whatifproject.net/support

SPECIAL MUSIC: Daniel Fridell and Sven Lindvall (Artist) / Whiskey Saved My Soul (Song Name) / courtesy of epidemicsound.com