Episode 33 of the TwoDads Podcast is one you don’t want to miss.

We sit down with Mayor Jeff Hazel of Celina, Ohio — a man who’s been leading since 2012 through some of the town’s biggest challenges: toxic algal blooms on Grand Lake St. Marys, a heroin epidemic that shook families, and even an EF3 tornado. At the same time, he’s been driving upgrades to the lakefront, schools, and utilities — all while running Hazelnut Coffeehouse with his wife.

This isn’t a political interview. It’s about what it actually feels like to carry a community through crisis, the emotional toll of public service, and the entrepreneurial courage it takes to risk failure and keep going. Jeff talks about what it’s like being the guy who sees people in the grocery store, who’s not always the most popular, but still has to make tough calls for everyone’s future.

We also lighten things up with our signature TwoDads game show — Mayor or Malarkey — where Jeff and Bill battle it out over real vs. ridiculous mayor duties.

By the end, you’ll walk away with a new appreciation for small-town leadership, and the very real people behind it.

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