Fault Lines

Episode 441: Populists, Planets, and Potential Tariff Pivots


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Today, Jess, Martha, and Les discuss Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s visit to the White House. As the EU’s unofficial emissary, Meloni is hoping to head off an EU-U.S. trade war. Trump says a deal is coming “100%,” but he’s in no rush. Meanwhile, the EU is in talks with China over EV tariffs, as Trump reportedly ups pressure on Europe to pick a side: Washington or Beijing. Oh, and NASA has found signs of life on an exoplanet. From trade to space and everything in between—it’s a very Fun Friday.


Is Trump driving a wedge between the EU and China—or just improvising one day at a time? Can Meloni, a right-wing nationalist, effectively represent Europe’s broader interests? Does NASA and the Trump Administration know more than they’re saying about alien life?


Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.


Check out the sources that helped shape our expert's discussion!


https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/trump-100-confident-of-trade-deal-with-eu-during-italian-pm-melonis-us-visit/


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/04/16/meloni-italy-eu-tariffs-trump/ 


https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/eu-china-start-talks-lifting-eu-tariffs-chinese-electric-vehicles-handelsblatt-2025-04-10/ 


https://www.washingtonpost.com/science/2025/04/16/alien-life-exoplanet-webb-telescope/


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