Fault Lines

Episode 461: The Art of the Call


Listen Later

Today, Les, Morgan, Matt, and Jess unpack the high-stakes phone calls between President Trump and two of the world’s most powerful leaders: Russia’s Vladimir Putin and China’s Xi Jinping. Trump’s first official call with Xi since taking office covered Taiwan, semiconductors, and student visas—but skipped over Russia, NATO, and North Korea. Meanwhile, a call earlier in the week with Putin followed Trump’s praise of Ukraine’s recent drone strike campaign, prompting warnings from Moscow and raising questions about U.S. positioning in the ongoing conflict.


Is the U.S. reclaiming its role at the center of international diplomacy—or just talking in circles? With no concrete deliverables yet, the question remains: what will actually come after the calls?


Check out the answers to these questions and more in this episode of Fault Lines.


Check out the sources that helped shape our Fellows’ discussion: 


https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/05/politics/trump-xi-trade-call 


https://apnews.com/article/trump-china-xi-tariffs-negotiations-trade-f2e4b48205001d7169ee34250089d8c1 


https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/04/politics/trump-putin-phone-call-ukraine-response 


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qg23gqllwo 


Follow our experts on Twitter: 


@lestermunson 


@morganlroach


@NotTVJessJones


@WMattHayden


Like what we're doing here? 

 

Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe. 

 

And don't forget to follow @faultlines_pod and @masonnatsec on Twitter!


We are also on YouTube, and watch today's episode here: https://youtu.be/FuBAbFK6o2E 

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Fault LinesBy National Security Institute

  • 4.4
  • 4.4
  • 4.4
  • 4.4
  • 4.4

4.4

41 ratings


More shows like Fault Lines

View all
War on the Rocks by Ryan Evans

War on the Rocks

1,086 Listeners

The Lawfare Podcast by The Lawfare Institute

The Lawfare Podcast

6,304 Listeners

Modern War Institute by Modern War Institute at West Point

Modern War Institute

772 Listeners

The President’s Inbox by Council on Foreign Relations

The President’s Inbox

723 Listeners

Radio Atlantic by The Atlantic

Radio Atlantic

2,398 Listeners

ChinaTalk by Jordan Schneider

ChinaTalk

291 Listeners

Net Assessment by The Stimson Center

Net Assessment

425 Listeners

Irregular Warfare Podcast by Irregular Warfare Initiative

Irregular Warfare Podcast

403 Listeners

Pekingology by Center for Strategic and International Studies

Pekingology

144 Listeners

Hard Fork by The New York Times

Hard Fork

5,599 Listeners

The Rest Is History by Goalhanger

The Rest Is History

15,681 Listeners

Shield of the Republic by The Bulwark

Shield of the Republic

497 Listeners

School of War by The Free Press

School of War

491 Listeners

The Foreign Affairs Interview by Foreign Affairs Magazine

The Foreign Affairs Interview

486 Listeners

NatSec Matters by Beacon Global Strategies LLC

NatSec Matters

266 Listeners