"We're sadistic motherf*ckers," says John Glionna, @johnglionna on the Instagrams.

John is a longtime journalist and author of No Friday Night Lights (Bison Books). He made a name for himself at the Los Angeles Times pursuing what would be called "Glionna stories," stories about invisible people who have rich lives all their own. 

In this episode we talk about

• The Glionna Story
• How John didn’t punch down in his writing
• Working with Glenn Stout on this book
• What he loves most about this kind of work
• And solving that thorny question of whether a story needs better writing or better reporting

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