Emily Heller (Barry, Ice Thickeners) talks about the difficulties of selling her stand up special. We chat about hosting a "comedy shabbat" for friends to develop new material, how she deals with feeling the lack of control in her life, and how it's important to update the old ideas that once consumed you.

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