I'm sharing a special episode from my mate Sarah Grynberg's podcast, A Life of Greatness. It's a doozy: Sarah in conversation with psychotherapist Esther Perel, one of the most insightful and original voices on modern relationships.

Sarah and Esther delve into how to make relationships last; infidelity and why even happy people cheat; and the importance of having meaning and purpose beyond caring for our kids.

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