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Ethereum’s Quantum Strategy with Justin Drake


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Quantum used to be crypto’s distant sci-fi problem. Justin Drake says it now has a clock. In this episode, we unpack what “Q-Day” actually means, why Justin thinks 2032 is the date the entire industry should be planning around, and why Ethereum is targeting 2029 to get post-quantum ready.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 When is Q-Day?
5:35 The moment quantum becomes crypto-relevant
10:11 How many qubits does it take to break crypto?
16:22 What a real Bitcoin quantum attack would look like
20:19 How much Bitcoin is actually vulnerable?
26:26 Burn, freeze, or salvage? Bitcoin’s impossible choice
35:06 Proof of seed phrase and Bitcoin’s post-quantum bottleneck
41:02 Ethereum’s exposure: smaller, but not zero
45:43 Ethereum’s tougher roadmap: three layers, three upgrades
50:29 The execution-layer plan: replace ECDSA without killing throughput
57:56 Post-quantum, post-AI cryptography
1:03:36 BLS, KZG, LeanVM, and the rest of the stack
1:06:42 Is this bigger than the Merge?
1:17:21 If Bitcoin stumbles, does all crypto stumble too?
1:19:35 “Quantum is not a challenge—it’s an opportunity”
1:21:27 AI, quantum, crypto and the 2032 convergence
1:28:04 Harvest now, decrypt later
1:30:09 Defensive accelerationism and Ethereum’s role
1:39:10 Stoicism, P-doom, and why he keeps building

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RESOURCES

Justin Drake
https://x.com/drakefjustin/

Bitcoin Quantum Risk List
https://www.projecteleven.com/bitcoin-risq-list

Nic Carter Blog Posts
https://murmurationstwo.substack.com/p/bitcoin-developers-are-sleepwalking
https://murmurationstwo.substack.com/p/trillion-dollar-salvage
https://murmurationstwo.substack.com/p/bitcoin-developers-are-mostly-not

The Strawmap
https://strawmap.org/

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